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[sparse]

Whats the new found style of Emo? I was of the opinion that Emo as we all probably know it was basically dead back in 99ish, bands like Bob Tilton and the like leading the way. But now it seems to be another word for "Nu metal"(or Sport Metal as my brother likes to call it) bands that don't want to be classed as Nu Metal.

I heard a sound engineer guy that I kinda know trying to explain it to some other people, he was saying that he thought that Emo standed for "emotional" and that the songs had "emotion" in them, what the fuck do other songs have in them if they don't have emotion, cheese?

I think I'm getting old and I'm only 21, help.

 

[Gav]

Its amazing what you can find when you are bored at work.

http://www.fourfa.com/

 

[Gav]

Oh and there is a good song by Diesel Boy called "Emo Boy" That sums things up quite well.

 

[snap-apple]

from www.allmusic.com:

Originally an arty outgrowth of hardcore punk, emo became an important force in underground rock by the late '90s, appealing to modern-day punks and indie-rockers alike. Some emo leans toward the progressive side, full of complex guitar work, unorthodox song structures, arty noise, and extreme dynamic shifts; some emo is much closer to punk-pop, though it's a bit more intricate. Emo lyrics are deeply personal, usually either free-associative poetry or intimate confessionals. Though it's far less macho, emo is a direct descendant of hardcore's preoccupations with authenticity and anti-commercialism; it grew out of the conviction that commercially oriented music was too artificial and calculated to express any genuine emotion. Because the emo ideal is authentic, deeply felt emotion that defies rational analysis, the style can be prone to excess in its quest for ever-bigger peaks and releases. But at its best, emo has a sweeping power that manages to be visceral, challenging, and intimate all at once. The groundwork for emo was laid by Hüsker Dü's 1984 landmark Zen Arcade, which made it possible for hardcore bands to tackle more personal subject matter and write more tuneful and technically demanding songs. Emo emerged in Washington, D.C. not long after, amidst the remnants of the hardcore scene that had produced Minor Threat and Bad Brains. The term "emo" (sometimes lengthened to "emocore") was initially used to describe hardcore bands who favored expressive vocals over the typical barking rants; the first true emo band was Rites of Spring, followed by ex-Minor Threat singer Ian MacKaye's short-lived Embrace. MacKaye's Dischord label became the center for D.C.'s growing emo scene, releasing work by Rites of Spring, Dag Nasty, Nation of Ulysses, and MacKaye's collaboration with members of Rites of Spring, Fugazi. Fugazi became the definitive early emo band, crossing over to alternative rock listeners and getting press for their uncompromisingly anti-commercial attitudes. Aside from the Dischord stable, most early emo was deeply underground, recorded by extremely short-lived bands and released on vinyl in small quantities by small labels; some vocalists literally wept onstage during song climaxes, earning derision from hardcore purists. Fugazi notwithstanding, emo didn't really break out of obscurity until the mid-'90s emergence of Sunny Day Real Estate, whose early work defined the style in the minds of many. Tempering Fugazi's gnarled guitar webs with Seattle grunge, straight-up prog-rock, and crooned vocals, SDRE launched a thousand imitators who connected with their dramatic melodies and introspective mysticism. Some of this new generation connected equally with the wry, geeky introspection and catchy punk-pop of Weezer's Pinkerton album. While several artists continued to build on Fugazi's innovations (including Quicksand and Drive Like Jehu), most '90s emo bands borrowed from some combination of Fugazi, Sunny Day Real Estate, and Weezer. Groups like the Promise Ring, the Get Up Kids, Braid, Texas Is the Reason, Jimmy Eat World, Joan of Arc, and Jets to Brazil earned substantial followings in the indie-rock world, making emo one of the more popular underground rock styles at the turn of the millennium.

 

[Gav]

.... and they play lots of Minor chords

 

[snap-apple]

personally i think it's just a tag for any non-agressive but still 'serious and deep' punky guitar stuff. (that description sounds like grunge)
i don't see how weezer fall into that - too busy moaning about not getting girls.
are blink 182 emo?
the wildhearts?
there are so many bands even from the 80's that could fall into it.
nirvana?

 

[sparse]

I always thought of it, as it says in the artical, as intricate guitars with heart felt vocals, usally with vocalists falling over and the like spending most of the gig on the ground, and a lot of pedal hopping. Are Jimmy Eat World emo? I don't think so. same for Blink 182, but ask a 16 year old outside central bank and he'll tell you they championed it.

 

[dramamineboy]

Originally posted by conor
from www.allmusic.com:

. MacKaye's Dischord label became the center for D.C.'s growing emo scene, releasing work by Rites of Spring, Dag Nasty, Nation of Ulysses, and MacKaye's collaboration with members of Rites of Spring, Fugazi. Fugazi became the definitive early emo band,

how the fuck would ANYONE describe nation of ulysses as emo??
that's a loadameebolliiix.

whatever the hell ya wanna describe as 'emo', it sure ain't Nation of Ulysses.

i thought Hylton Weir were 'emo'....

 

[Gav]

To me the Emo sound is defined by bands like Jets To Brazil, the Promise Ring, and the Get Up Kids. They are good bands but I don't really like them. Their Emo sound is very whiney.

Jimmy Eat world are called Emo because they have some acoustic songs on the record.

And Blink 182 are about as emo as my arse.

 

[sparse]

Originally posted by dramamineboy


i thought Hylton Weir were 'emo'....

They were, thats my point, its a far cry from Jimmy Eats World.

Hylton Weir .|..| , but then I have to say that.

 

[sparse]

Originally posted by Gav

And Blink 182 are about as emo as my arse.

Does your arse wear thick framed glasses?

 

[Gav]

Originally posted by sparse-icus


Does your arse wear thick framed glasses?

Only on the weekends.

 

[snap-apple]

Originally posted by dramamineboy

how the fuck would ANYONE describe nation of ulysses as emo??
that's a loadameebolliiix.

whatever the hell ya wanna describe as 'emo', it sure ain't Nation of Ulysses.

http://www.skatepunk.net/articles/emo.html
http://www.bandhunt.com/genres/emocore.html
http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/music_point/punk/e_emo.htm
http://www.spectatoronline.com/2001-05-23/soundcheck_feature.html
http://my.tele2.ee/rockmp3/STYLES/Emo.htm

and there's another ten thousand pages linking N.O.U. with emo.
i don't know anything about the band or their music but as i said above, emo can seemingly mean pretty much anything with loud guitars and emotive lyrics. but go to google.com and do a search for "Nation Of Ulysses emo" and you'll get more than one or two results back.

 

[snap-apple]

lads, yiz are all getting very protective of yer emo

as i said i know nothing much about it but it seems to me like the phrase has been hijacked as something cool by corporate american bands to mean something different to what it originally meant. like grunge and punk and everything else that was hardcore and underground to begin with.
next: blur go post-rock!

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/blink182/emo.html

 

[Gav]

This song defines EMO for me.
Diesel Boy.

[EMO BOY] he read every issue of punk planet with a tissue bad reviews of his favorite band made him cry and he could hardly believe that jawbreaker signed to dgc he took it personally that blake had lied when all that he loved was thru whats an emo boy to do with a broken heart and some minor chords inspiration lame on the floor he was just barely sixteen when he started his fanzine he could lay his broken heart out on the page and it got real inspiring when people started writing in he was not alone he was not alone when all his work was done he put on side one boxcar sang him to sleep locked away in an emo dream one foggy night at the bottom of the hill front and center for jets to brazil emo boy met emo girl barrettes in her hair and buddy holly glasses and laminated passes they left the club and went back to his house and fooled around to the new record from modest mouse

 

[Anthony]

Jesus... does that make the Mound emo? <gasp>
I mean, minor chords, whiney lyrics etc.

I always thought it refered to all that toutoise, trm, billy mahonie stuff.

I know nothing

 

[pete]

I always associated emo with a certain type of person rather than a certain "sound" - whether that person is writing the lyrics and / or music or relating to them.

 

[snap-apple]

Originally posted by Anthony
Jesus... does that make the Mound emo? <gasp>

don't tell "Angry" Ian...

 

[hop]

so what makes emo emo? is it the lyrics being more heartfelt than the previous machism of punk, or is it that kind of music combined with that lyricial style?

I FUCKING HATE categories. And cliches. wait that's two cliches...oh no

 

[dramamineboy]

in my shit-faced opinion, good 'emo' begins and ends with Rites of Spring
(ok....maybe, Cap'n Jazz as well)

all that jimmy eat world/getupkids/promise ring stuff, although i can see why it's ok, just makes me cringe to be honest.

it's all that singin about diaries, lunchboxes, months and seasons (autumn seems particularly popular for some reason)....eurghhh.

so, to re-iterate

Rites of Spring .|..|

Jimmy Eat World etc.. !bog

and i don't really appreciate that reference to modest mouse in that Emoboy song, but hey, it seems like anyone these days can be described as bleedin emo...

now 'Screamo'.....that's a genre to be talkin about