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it's not much use if your peers are dicks.
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it would've taken a week to write a feature, ring various people, go to the library, travel to different places, then a team of fact checkers and sub editors would pour over the copy, maybe even a legal department
lots of people still put in a lot of work to make there copy clean and here in the office there are often discussion on things like this... but you'd be amazed how quickly a fiction like this can be logged and seem as acurate as fact when you check it on the web (which is actually interesting, maybe that's the dudes point?) why would anyone suspect a proper sounding quote like that from some obscure composer to be a lie?
yr mans project just sounds like carefully putting a banana skin on the stairs and pointing at someone who slips on it for not being able to walk down stairs
Should a journalist not at least cite wikipedia as a source?
By who?News sources should be held to a higher standard.
By who?
most of the press is largely edited by the advertisers anyways, its not like super valu or tesco as sponsors of most publications care a lot if some composer did or didnt saying something about stuff, they are much more concerned about the chicken being clearly visible to entice the fans of obscure composers to go comfort eating chicken from tesco deli while mourning their hero. if you guyz really care, stage a boycott of everything those papers advertise untill such time that the advertisers force journalists to cross check everything they write.
this isnt the horn thread.
it isn't the wackjob thread either.
Well, y'know, I agree with you, but I expect it's getting harder and harder to maintain a culture of journalistic integrity within a newspaper. They're pretty squeezed on cost, so even if the staff really really want to do an amazing job they have to crank out the words too fast to allow them to do proper research - and once the culture is lost it's probably never coming backBy everyone involved
it isn't the wackjob thread either.
what is whackjob about explaining how print media works>?
Well, y'know, I agree with you, but I expect it's getting harder and harder to maintain a culture of journalistic integrity within a newspaper. They're pretty squeezed on cost, so even if the staff really really want to do an amazing job they have to crank out the words too fast to allow them to do proper research - and once the culture is lost it's probably never coming back
Never mind. Newspapers are dying anyway. Read this today, there's some interesting thoughts within
http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/newspapers-and-thinking-the-unthinkable/
Round and round this goes, with the people committed to saving newspapers demanding to know “If the old model is broken, what will work in its place?” To which the answer is: Nothing. Nothing will work. There is no general model for newspapers to replace the one the internet just broke.
With the old economics destroyed, organizational forms perfected for industrial production have to be replaced with structures optimized for digital data. It makes increasingly less sense even to talk about a publishing industry, because the core problem publishing solves — the incredible difficulty, complexity, and expense of making something available to the public — has stopped being a problem.
Never mind. Newspapers are dying anyway. Read this today, there's some interesting thoughts within
http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/newspapers-and-thinking-the-unthinkable/
suggesting that advertisers control the editing of a newspaper?
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