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[nutmeg81]

Republic of Ireland squad:

(GK) Keiren Westwood, David Forde, Darren Randolph

(D) Marc Wilson, John O’Shea, Sean St. Ledger, Darren O’Dea, Stephen Ward, Stephen Kelly, Paul McShane

(M) Glenn Whelan, James McCarthy, Keith Andrews, Keith Fahey, Seamus Coleman, Aiden McGeady, Andy Keogh James McClean

(F) Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Simon Cox, Jon Walters

Standby List: Richard Dunne, Robbie Brady

Can somebody explain why Ciaran Clark is being ignored? has he said something or had a rift with Trapp? The fact he is covering for Dunne at Villa yet still loses out on a place to McShane/O'Dea is crazy stuff.

No joy for Meyler either which is tough considering Gibson wasn't included. i Know Fahey and Andrews are back but he at least playing some PL football compared to the other two.

Also is Pilkington ever gonna get another chance? Pity he had to cry off the Serbia game, and Hoolahan for that matter.

 

[washingcattle]

Is there any point in discussing this ? We all know the team he's going to put out.

8-0 to Germany. I'm sticking by that.

 

[Cormcolash]

I'm gonna be a bit more reasonable, and say 4-0 Germany

 

[Richie]

I reckon 3-1 to Germany.. Siege time again but without Dunne and Given to rescue us. I can handle losing to one of the best sides in the world with our mediocre bunch, but if we're ramming our heads against brick walls again (i.e. 4-4-2 to accommodate Keane despite him barely seeing the ball all game, 2 midfielders chasing shadows against an extra man, Cox/Keogh looking lost out on the wing, Ward and O'Shea demonstrating once again that they are not top level fullbacks) then Trap has to go sooner rather than later. He's been making noises about starting McCarthy as a 5th midfielder but it's hard to see him taking the next step and telling Robbie he has to start this one on the bench.

 

[nutmeg81]

here is a list of some of the questions that hotpress are hoping that trapp will answer, they put it out in the public after he initialling refusing to speak with them.

what do ya think of the questions?

Very few football fans are in any doubt at this stage that there is a crisis in Irish football. The problems that emerged during Euro 2012 with the management of the team can be nutshelled in a few phrases: an apparent arrogance on the part of the manager; a series of communications breakdowns with players; a parallel inability to communicate effectively with the media; bizarre team selections and substitutions that almost no one else in football seems to understand; a football philosophy that produces what most observers agree is a style of football that is both outdated and deeply unattractive; a simmering mistrust of youth on the manager’s part, bordering at times on contempt; and more recently, a fresh round of players retiring and making themselves unavailable for selection.

If the team continues to fail to get the results, the cost to the FAI will be horrendous. The effect on every layer of football in Ireland is potentially devastating – giving anyone and everyone who cares about the game here a stake in what is happening. Which is why football people now need to hear clearly and unambiguously from the manager why so many problems have arisen and what can be done to alleviate them.

Ahead of Ireland playing Germany in Dublin in our World Cup qualifying campaign, we decided to put a series of questions to Giovanni Trapattoni. We believe there is an onus on the manager to answer these questions, in the interest of the future of football in Ireland. He has, however, declined to do so.

In that context, we are now making a public call on the manager – whose track record in club football is extraordinary – to make the effort that we believe his salary as Irish manager, and the responsibility that the role entails, demand of him: to answer in full the questions set in the new edition of Hot Press. There are times when these questions are explicitly critical of Giovanni Trapattoni’s performance as manager; No pleasure is taken in this whatsoever. But it is necessary. The future of Irish football is far more important than any one man...

With Ireland having lost two matches, and performed badly in Euro 2012, there was an opportunity in the final game to give other players a chance. Instead you played the same team as for the opening game.

• Why did you persist with a team selection that was
clearly not working?

• Why did you pick the same players, who would clearly have been tired physically as well as mentally, when there was the option to introduce some ‘fresh legs’?

• Did it not occur to you that it would be a good idea to give, for example, Darron Gibson the opportunity to show what he could do?

• Do you recognise his right to feel aggrieved at being left kicking his heels for the entire 
 tournament, especially given that Paul Green – who plays in centre-midfield as Darron does but at a lower level in England – was given a run 
 against Spain.

• Did you ever speak to Darron in Poland and reassure him that you respect him as a player and want him to be part of the squad going forward?

• Were you not aware of the possible negative effects on the morale of the other players that you would stick so resolutely with the players who had lost two games badly?


You have repeatedly criticised or poured cold water on the young players both inside and outside the Irish squad.

• Are you not aware of the damaging effect this has on their self-belief and on their commitment to the cause?

On a number of occasions you have publicly blamed the players for the performance of the team.

• You were quoted recently saying that none of the players in the squad have a “big personality”. Are you not aware that this is a condescending way to describe the players you are working with?

• Are you not aware of how potentially damaging to the morale of players it is 
 to constantly belittle them in that way?

• Do you not recognise that as manager,
part of your job is to instil confidence, belief in their own ability and strength
of purpose in the players?

The extent of unrest and unhappiness among the players has been glaringly obvious in recent times with two players – Shay Given and Damien Duff – retiring, Darron Gibson deciding that he would not be available for the Kazakhstan game, James McClean tweeting about how unhappy he was and Ciaran Clark (among others) speaking about not knowing where he stands.

• Are you aware of the growing public perception that this player 
 unhappiness is a reflection on you and on your style of management?

• How do you respond to the view that it suggests a lack of communication 
 – or a lack of ability to communicate – with the players?

• You are over four years in the job as 
 manager of the Republic of Ireland. 
 Why have you not made a greater effort to improve your use of the English language sufficient to make yourself understood by the players, and indeed by the media?

• Do you recognise that communication with the players and with the media 
 has been a persistent problem, and that there is a very public view among 
 the soccer writers that your statements at press conferences are often impossible to follow or to understand?

For the full report including the all the questions from Hot Press that Giovanni Trapattoni declined to answer, see the new edition in stores now.

 

[nutmeg81]

due to joey o'brien not getting picked (even though he is a pl player with west ham) if it came down to it would anyone rather harte back in to the fold over ward if say wilson got injured?

still baffled as to why clark is excluded.

heres hoping by some miralce the same team that played oman will get picked for the friendlies against greece and poland but that the squad includes clark, pilkington and hoolahan......all pl regulars unlike fuckin keogh, green, mcfuckwit.

also is st ledger still not gettin his game at club level?

 

[Unicron]

That's some grandstanding bullshit by Hot Press, I hope Niall Stokes wakes up one morning with a horses' head next to him.

Trap must stay until. at the very least, Roy Keane gets a new job in management that he can't get out of.

 

[Hector Grey]

I wouldn't worry about Keano. He's with O'Leary in the grave.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Irish football has long been in crisis,just look at the state of our national league-clubs playing to minuscule crowds in crumbling stadia amidst indifference from the general public.
The powers that be in the FAI are equally indifferent,all they care about is having a piss up on the international away games,Delaney being the most obvious symptom of the general malaise.
Why should Trap give a flying fuck when no-one else does?

 

[Richie]

Exactly - the way the FAI is run, the major problems with the youth structure setup, the fact that senior professional football in Ireland has been more or less on its knees for 30 years and the huge over-reliance on England to develop players for us are much bigger problems than having a stubborn old Italian in charge of the national side.. Since when did Hot Press consider themselves a sporting publication anyway, let alone one with the authority to grill a legend of the European game and expect him to willingly respond? If he won't explain his decisions properly to RTE, the Irish Times or the Indo he'll hardly do it for them.

German squad here, by the way-

Manuel Neuer (Bayern München), Ron-Robert Zieler (Hannover 96), Marc-Andre ter Stegen (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Holger Badstuber, Jerome Boateng, Philipp Lahm (Bayern München), Mats Hummels, Marcel Schmelzer (Borussia Dortmund), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke 04), Per Mertesacker (FC Arsenal)
Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen), Mario Götze, Ilkay Gündogan, Marco Reus (Borussia Dortmund), Mesut Özil, Sami Khedira (Real Madrid), Toni Kroos, Thomas Müller, Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern München), Lukas Podolski (FC Arsenal), Andre Schürrle (Bayer Leverkusen)
Miroslav Klose (Lazio Rom)

 

[nutmeg81]

david meyler called up but cant find out if its as a replacement due to an injury.

doyle apparently got a knock at training and maybe out

 

[Cormcolash]

Lars Bender

 

[Richie]

St Ledger's probably out, hamstring injury picked up today. I dread to think what kind of defence we'll have lining out on Friday, O'Dea and McShane must be close to starting at this stage.

 

[Cormcolash]

In McShane we trust



to be completely shit

 

[nutmeg81]

with st ledger possibly being out this must be the time to call in clark surely?! with brady and meyler being called up last week we cannot afford to have o'dea and mcshane as out central pairing, i cant imagine o'shea will be played there as trapp believes he's a class full back!

wilson was alittle dodgey at times againt 'pool yesterday which is a bit worrying but then again sterling and suarez were playing great football.

whelan may now also be out which could mean a chance for mccarthy to start beside andrews.