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Juno said:I don’t see anything to be proud of in seeking equality in savagery.
Juno said:How does it further a minority’s cause (be they gay, female, whatever) to see themselves as protagonists of some of society’s worst crimes of dominance?
stunning said:Now, I don't believe that carrying a gun is going to make my world a better place...I'm much to clumsy...however, those mutha fucking asshole pricks will think twice before they try to assault someone again...verbally or otherwise.
kstop said:Yeah, they'll think "Hey, I gotta get me one of those bangsticks too!" (We've all seen TOS 45...) Then next time yer man pulls out his gun, they pull out theirs, the irony of the phallic imagery is lost on all concerned, and somebody ends up dead.
conor said:so if i get this article right its encouraging people to let their desires run free, including rape fantasies etc. now what about a paedophile who gets off on regular images of kids in a clothing catelogue or similar? that paedophile is letting their imagination and desires run wild.
vertrauen said:Stunning/thomas: I can see your point, but there is a fine line, especially with regards to rape or paedophilia. If you fantasise about any of these things, and it is part of your psyche, then perhaps there is the possibility of the chance of acting out your fantasies?
stunning said:Is murder not worse a crime than rape?
When was the last time YOU thought about killing someone?
Thomas
vertrauen said:Stunning/thomas: I can see your point, but there is a fine line, especially with regards to rape or paedophilia. If you fantasise about any of these things, and it is part of your psyche, then perhaps there is the possibility of the chance of acting out your fantasies?
vertrauen said:Fantasising about killing somebody, for some perceived injustice etc, is slightly different to fantasising about raping somebody or having sex with little children, in my opinion.
stunning said:I don't hit, kick or punch people. But again, I will indulge my fantasies of hitting, kicking and punching whoever and whenever I want.
It can actually help to engage in the process of the fantasy to AVOID the behavior itself. I can easily fantasize about KILLING George Bush or blowing up a building. Doing that helps me relief stress and also realize that its something I don't actually want to do.
Thomas
spiritualtramp said:I fantasise about getting a sniper gun , sitting on top of a tall building and shooting dead anybody that drops litter .
also , a nice daydream for me is standing at a pedestrian crossing with a baseball bat and smashing the shit out of any car that drives through it whilst there is a green light .
doesn't mean I'd actually do this in real life though .
stunning said:Murder IS worse than rape.
stunning said:Desire doesn't hurt people. Actions and behaviours hurt people. They are two seperate things.
spiritualtramp said:I fantasise about getting a sniper gun , sitting on top of a tall building and shooting dead anybody that drops litter .
also , a nice daydream for me is standing at a pedestrian crossing with a baseball bat and smashing the shit out of any car that drives through it whilst there is a green light .
doesn't mean I'd actually do this in real life though .
stunning said:I'd just like to point out that in my above comment, which may appear flippant in the context it was used in, I mean no insensitivity to those who have survived rape or have loved ones who have either. My point wasn't meant to trivialize or minimize the horrors of sexual assault. Simply to remind the discussion that as a society we recognize that the act of murder is the most offensive of crimes, allowing for 0% healing on the victim's behalf.
Most sincerely,
Thomas
ps. Thanks M.C.
conor said:i disagree with the way the article completely doesn't deal with the fact that rape is wrong and hence people shouldn't really be encouraged to fantasise about it. i also think people are more likely to act out sexual fantasies than other extreme acts.
conor said:i also think people are more likely to act out sexual fantasies than other extreme acts.
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