Cormcolash
Well-Known Member
Haha. I was hoping for some indignant responses or something.
My arguments at the time were always multi-faceted with respect to certain things, but primarily came down to what was happening with money at the fest (by which I am not trying to imply anything untoward - in fact, I would find it completely acceptable for organisers of such an event to take some money from it for themselves). This was pretty clear in my e-mails to Jasper I believe.
As I recall, I also informed him that the questions I was raising were a result of my thinking about similar issues in relation to the previous SAIF fests, so in effect my change in attitude could be seen as a result of playing at SAIF in previous years. (That is still only part of the picture though). I do think I apologized for bringing it all up at short notice before the actual event.
The PV issue at the time was greatly exacerbated by the fact that their guitar player had just whacked Skubi round the head with his guitar at a gig in Bohs - people forget this happened at almost exactly the same time we pulled out of the fest. Fair play to PV though, I gather they kicked yer man out pretty much right away. There was still an issue over money though, and other bands as well which were certainly not just in relation to PV.
I also made it very clear both then and since that I had no problem with the organisers, particularly Jasper, simply the way the fest was actually being organised and how this affected everything. It just happens that when you get into it that is really quite a complex issue, particularly considering that most people would never bother thinking about that aspect of it.
The reality is, if people didn't make unwarranted assumptions, listen to distorted stories, not pay attention to what has actually been said instead of what they think they heard, and keep a level head about things, this thread almost certainly wouldn't exist right now. Of course, punks in general are extremely good at making assumptions and jumping on bandwagons as they see fit, as has been shown on countless occasions in the past!
Finally, I suspect this was all Moose's fault, he's always wanted to see me ruined because I am from the North, and he doesn't consider me properly Irish the way people round his parts are...
My arguments at the time were always multi-faceted with respect to certain things, but primarily came down to what was happening with money at the fest (by which I am not trying to imply anything untoward - in fact, I would find it completely acceptable for organisers of such an event to take some money from it for themselves). This was pretty clear in my e-mails to Jasper I believe.
As I recall, I also informed him that the questions I was raising were a result of my thinking about similar issues in relation to the previous SAIF fests, so in effect my change in attitude could be seen as a result of playing at SAIF in previous years. (That is still only part of the picture though). I do think I apologized for bringing it all up at short notice before the actual event.
The PV issue at the time was greatly exacerbated by the fact that their guitar player had just whacked Skubi round the head with his guitar at a gig in Bohs - people forget this happened at almost exactly the same time we pulled out of the fest. Fair play to PV though, I gather they kicked yer man out pretty much right away. There was still an issue over money though, and other bands as well which were certainly not just in relation to PV.
I also made it very clear both then and since that I had no problem with the organisers, particularly Jasper, simply the way the fest was actually being organised and how this affected everything. It just happens that when you get into it that is really quite a complex issue, particularly considering that most people would never bother thinking about that aspect of it.
The reality is, if people didn't make unwarranted assumptions, listen to distorted stories, not pay attention to what has actually been said instead of what they think they heard, and keep a level head about things, this thread almost certainly wouldn't exist right now. Of course, punks in general are extremely good at making assumptions and jumping on bandwagons as they see fit, as has been shown on countless occasions in the past!
Finally, I suspect this was all Moose's fault, he's always wanted to see me ruined because I am from the North, and he doesn't consider me properly Irish the way people round his parts are...
