Shell to Sea Five A Side Tournament (1 Viewer)

[CITY BABY]

Just don't bother taking any of Eirigi, they've plenty of pictures online already, very easy to find, here's a collage sure

I really dont see your problem with eirigi considering theyve on many occaisions rejected the idea of armed struggle in the current climate, considering the increase in activitey of groups like CIRA RIRA and the appearnt reapearance of the IPLO, I reckon theres alot more groups around at the moment that you could be venting your anger at, I really cant find anything I disagree with Eirigi at the moment, they only bad things Ive heard are from mates in SF and RSF
I hate the way people thik being anti the GFA means being anti peace as far as I can see the GFA is comming apart at the seams at the moment , the fact that partys have to claim one side or the other just to me seems to reinforce the secterian divide, and the veto hasnt gone away you know.
I reckon eirigi are a much needed progressive voice within republicism.
considering the likes of the hibernian magazine and alot of the rectionary rightwing splinter groups happening around the south that would be of the revolver and rosery bead varitey.

in saying all that ive never being to any of their talks / meetings.

 

[Cormcolash]

I have a problem with pretty much any current Republican organisation, because the idea of a "United Ireland" is a complete load of shit that isn't going to change anything. It's an utterly outdated concept and has been for the past 50 years+.

Republicanism in the context of Northern Ireland is overall aimed at enforcing a different rule on 50% of the population, making Republican organisations hypocrites, as they claim to be actively struggling against an enforced regime.
The Irish government are only slightly less fucked up than the British government, and in fact is probably far less scrutinised and gets away with far more bribes etc, so no improvement there.

Republican groups never mention any of that because it would make them look ridiculous. The so-called Republican struggle in Northern Ireland, in fact, is nothing more than Catholic versus Protestant. That's what modern Republicanism in Northern Ireland is about, and the same applies for Loyalism.
The troubles in Northern Ireland have always been driven by religion, whatever the politicians try and have you believe. That's what it all comes down to, Catholic versus Protestant. Groups like Eirigi are only trying to profit off that and enforce the idea.
Most punks will be eager to point out how religion is full of shit, and why anyone would agree with a group that is helping to sustain a religious division is beyond me.

Northern Ireland is fucked up as it is. That's no mystery.
Groups such as Eirigi however are only aimed at deepening divisions towards their own ends. They draw on support from areas that have been polarised by Nationalist politics, and they aim to further isolate these areas with their own brand of anti-agreement politics. United Ireland my arse. These are people who simply don't want any solution to the problems of Northern Ireland apart from a United Ireland. Why should anyone support groups aimed at acheiving a United Ireland, when this would only result in an armed struggle initiated by the 'other side' in Northern Irish politics?

Also Eirigi support do associate with Republican paramilitary groups, people who are still involved in violence and attempts at murder. This was evident from the make-up of their recent protest against the British army homecoming parade in Belfast, which was heavily attended by militant republicans who are against Sinn Fein's political approach (i.e people who still want to blow the shit out of things). Eirigi are happy with these people taking part in their protests, so they are helping support dissident paramilitary groups by providing them with a political platform to point to.
They are just scum, pure and simple, supporting people who are only interested in murdering other people for a bullshit ideology.

If Northern Ireland is ever to move forward it will only be through co-operation and understanding between the two sides. It will be through regular people realising that they can work together and get things done, that they have plenty in common apart from stupid religions, and they can ignore idiots that only have their own goals in mind.
That might not ever happen, but groups like Eirigi sure as hell won't ever help it to. Fuck them.

 

[Janer]

I have a problem with pretty much any current Republican organisation, because the idea of a "United Ireland" is a complete load of shit that isn't going to change anything. It's an utterly outdated concept and has been for the past 50 years+.

So the status quo pre 1969 was grand, ie gerrymanderring and no jobs for catholics in H&W or the civil service?
I wonder what would have happened if 1969-1998 had've never have happened, sometimes their has to be armed struggle in history to achieve equal rights.

Republicanism in the context of Northern Ireland is overall aimed at enforcing a different rule on 50% of the population, making Republican organisations hypocrites, as they claim to be actively struggling against an enforced regime.

But it was enforced on them.
Its aimed at what was originally a single island of Irish people b4 the plantations.


I do agree with some of your points but not most.

 

[Woody]

The so-called Republican struggle in Northern Ireland, in fact, is nothing more than Catholic versus Protestant. That's what modern Republicanism in Northern Ireland is about, and the same applies for Loyalism.
The troubles in Northern Ireland have always been driven by religion, whatever the politicians try and have you believe. That's what it all comes down to, Catholic versus Protestant.

I support Eirigi and I'm Protestant. So.........

 

[falsemonkey]

A well articulated argument Comrmcolash

 

[falsemonkey]

They were originally a split from Dublin Sinn Fein, a couple of the top lads. Many of whom were more radical and left wing than your usual shinner.

They've now expanded across the island taking a lot of disilluisoned shinners with them. Anarchists have worked with them closely in the Shell to Sea campaign.

They've definitely become more explicit in their nationalist politics over the last 6-12 months.

Radical and Left wing is surely a contradiction to Nationalist? How can they be both?

Serious question.

 

[Problematic]

Radical and Left wing is surely a contradiction to Nationalist? How can they be both?

Serious question.

Maybe because they are not Nationalists, they are Socialist Republicans ?

 

[Willie Willions]

I think they're National Socialist Republicans?

 

[Problematic]

A well articulated argument Comrmcolash

well it isn't really, the first line is "because the idea of a "United Ireland" is a complete load of shit that isn't going to change anything. It's an utterly outdated concept and has been for the past 50 years" ... and has nothing to say about the occupation, outdated or otherwise. His end line is "If Northern Ireland is ever to move forward it will only be through co-operation and understanding between the two sides" but his whole argument in between those two bookend statements was spent denigrating the motivation of anybody with Republican intentions, doesn't seem to be a whole lot of understanding going on.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

fuck the politics,are we playing ball or what?

 

[D0njo]

No way, football's fuckin shite

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

No way, football's fuckin shite

ha ha,good answer .|..|
anyone for tennis then?

 

[D0njo]

Ah, I'm shite at tennis..
Anyone want to start a band or play online computer games? Or ping pong?

 

[damien]

i'm busy destroying capitalism from the inside

 

[killy kill]

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god, save oirland

 

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[тхеодоре кацзынски]

i'm busy destroying capitalism from the inside

leave that carry on to the banks,theyre doing a grand job

 

[Vin]

Teams registered so far:

Team 1: Connolly Youth
Team 2: Socialist Party
Team 3: Eirigi
Team 4: Eirigi
Team 5: Labour Youth
Team 6: IPSC
Team 7: Durriti Column FC (WSM)
Team 8: Kronstadt Rebellion Athletic (WSM)
Team 9: Dublin Bus
Team 9: IRSP
Team 10: Organise!

 

[killy kill]

Teams registered so far:

Team 1: Connolly Youth
Team 2: Socialist Party
Team 3: Eirigi
Team 4: Eirigi
Team 5: Labour Youth
Team 6: IPSC
Team 7: Durriti Column FC (WSM)
Team 8: Kronstadt Rebellion Athletic (WSM)
Team 9: Dublin Bus
Team 9: IRSP
Team 10: Organise!

that the IWU or a more informal team, shell to sea activists working there etc?

 

[Vin]

that the IWU or a more informal team, shell to sea activists working there etc?

as far as i'm aware, it's an already established Dublin Bus 5 aside team which was set up by a Dublin Bus Shop Steward and SP member.