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By Anthony Cordesman
Published: July 30 2003 20:23 | Last Updated: July 30 2003 20:23


It is far too soon to talk about prolonged guerrilla warfare in Iraq. So far, the threat has come largely from small cadres of Ba'ath party followers and Saddam Hussein loyalists in central Iraq. They can operate more because Sunnis still fear the old regime, and resent the US occupation for its initial failures in providing security and nation-building, than because they have popular support. The US and its allies can defeat this kind of opposition if the nation-building effort gathers momentum and the US combines focused military action and suitable concern for Iraqi civilians. However, if the US blunders, it not only may lose the peace but also could create a third Gulf war.


This could occur as the result of some combination of the following mistakes:

Rather than progress towards an Iraq for the Iraqis on their terms, the Americans muddle through. It starts to look as if they will be there for five to 10 years, rather than 12-24 months. Rather than set goals to attract genuine Iraqi support, the US appears to be rebuilding Iraq in its own image.

The nation-building effort, including economic recovery, is too slow and too many promises are not kept. Local security falters. Well intended reforms either do not work or pay off too late to generate any gratitude. The US and its allies try to find the leaders they want, rather than those the Iraqis want. Rather than screening the Ba'ath and Iraqi military as individuals, they reject some of Iraq's best people, who went along with Saddam Hussein's dictatorship in order to survive.

The US and its allies deal with the guerrilla threat by acting more like occupiers than liberators. US forces increasingly huddle behind their own security barriers, distancing themselves from ordinary Iraqis. The US has tactical military successes but alienates a large number of Sunnis in the process - Sunnis who feel increasingly disenfranchised as the Shia and Kurds gain a fair share of wealth and power. Remnants of the Ba'ath and Saddam loyalists mix with new elements of Sunni Islamic extremists to present a continuing threat. Even those Sunnis who do not want Mr Hussein come to demand a US/UK withdrawal from their country.

The US tries too hard to prevent religious Shia from gaining power. It alienates the Shia majority, which has largely tolerated - but not supported - the US/UK presence. The result plays into the hands of religious hard-liners and Iran. The same pattern of resistance and violence emerges in the south that now exists in central Iraq.

Growing sectarian divisions complicate the nation-building effort. The Kurds continue to support the US and Britain but the Kurdish factions resume their power struggle as the cash flow from the oil for food programme and from smuggling dries up. The assertion of Kurdish power creates resentment among Sunnis and Turkomans and strains relations between the US and Turkey.

US efforts to create a federal structure that can bridge the ethnic and sectarian divides fail to prevent inter-communal violence. No Iraqi faction is convinced that a federal state will give it a fair share of real power. Fear of prolonged occupation, and the feeling among most Iraqis that those who go along with the US effort simply do so as appeasers and for their own benefit, undercuts the nation-building effort and adds to the unrest.

The US tries to handle all of these problems on the cheap. Washington talks up Iraq's oil wealth even though the country has already lost six months of oil export revenues and half of its export production capacity. The US tries to rehabilitate Iraq's petroleum industry according to its own priorities and without Iraqi technocratic and political input. Ordinary Iraqis come to feel their oil is being stolen and oil revenues are not used as the glue to unite Iraq's divided factions in some form of federalism.

The US fails to confront its allies with the need to forgive Iraqi reparations and debt - claims potentially amounting to more than $200bn - leaving Iraq angry and without a financial future. It improvises solutions in Western market terms, failing to realise that oil export revenues are the only glue that can hold Iraqi federalism together. The US and its allies try do the right thing in economic and technocratic terms but end up increasing Iraqi distrust and hostility.

Iraqis believe that the token 40,000-man Iraqi army formed by the US leaves Iraq defenceless against Iran and Turkey and dependent on US and British occupying forces. Even those officers who seem to support the US and UK secretly become nationalistic and hostile.

Each step in this process pushes the US and its allies towards greater dependence on returned Iraqi opposition leaders who have little real influence and credibility and on Iraqis willing to go along with the occupying powers solely for their own gain. It also creates an insecure environment for the real task at hand: rebuilding the Iraqi nation.

There is nothing inevitable about this worst case scenario. Indeed, these are precisely the pitfalls that US, Britain and others involved in the nation-building effort will try to avoid. But if they fail, the US may end up fighting a war against the Iraqi people. This is a kind of "asymmetric" war the US should never have to fight and cannot win.


The writer holds the Arleigh A. Burke chair in strategy at the Centre for Strategic Studies in Washington
 
mr. anthony cordesman, he talk-a the load of shite-a.

It is far too soon to talk about prolonged guerrilla warfare in Iraq. So far, the threat has come largely from small cadres of Ba'ath party followers and Saddam Hussein loyalists in central Iraq.

bullshit. who is telling us that the iraqi resistance is “small cadres” of “ba’ath party followers” and “saddam loyalists”? well, the occupying power is telling us. so maybe we should take that with more than a pinch of salt. If the americans admitted to being under attack from those ordinary Iraqis that they supposedly went in to “liberate”, a whole load of other nasty questions could get asked.

They can operate more because Sunnis still fear the old regime, and resent the US occupation for its initial failures in providing security and nation-building, than because they have popular support. The US and its allies can defeat this kind of opposition if the nation-building effort gathers momentum and the US combines focused military action and suitable concern for Iraqi civilians.

again, fantasy-land stuff. the attacks are being carried out by sunnis. and shi’ites, and kurds. and a lot of other groups. the assertion above is so obviously arguing from its conclusions to its evidence that it is really quite embarrassing. the “nation-building effort” stuff is just more double-think: the americans can do no wrong, so therefore everything done is right and just and good and honourable.

However, if the US blunders, it not only may lose the peace but also could create a third Gulf war.

well, some of that is absolutely true, but in a very different way. the americans are not “blundering”, for a start. they just don’t give a shit about “nation-building” (see previous “nation-building” efforts in grenada, haiti, nicaragua, somalia, kosovo, afghanistan). if it suits their purpose, the american elites who decide policy will engineer a third gulf war, which will then be explained as someone else’s responsibility, forcing the reluctant but heroic american forces to gently invade again.

This could occur as the result of some combination of the following mistakes:

Rather than progress towards an Iraq for the Iraqis on their terms, the Americans muddle through. It starts to look as if they will be there for five to 10 years, rather than 12-24 months. Rather than set goals to attract genuine Iraqi support, the US appears to be rebuilding Iraq in its own image.

again, the americans aren’t “muddl[ing] through”. and as for the assertion that the americans “appears to be rebuilding iraq in its own image”, well, duh. i love the “appears to be”, though. instructions for american elite propagandists: at all times, act surprised at the very very obvious.

The nation-building effort, including economic recovery, is too slow and too many promises are not kept. Local security falters. Well intended reforms either do not work or pay off too late to generate any gratitude. The US and its allies try to find the leaders they want, rather than those the Iraqis want. Rather than screening the Ba'ath and Iraqi military as individuals, they reject some of Iraq's best people, who went along with Saddam Hussein's dictatorship in order to survive.

more fantasy. however, it’s interesting to see that americans picking the leaders they want, rather than the ones the iraqis want, can also be lumped in with the “muddling through” stuff, as if it’s something that just happens, like getting the electricity to work again. as for the idea that they are rejecting “some of iraq’s best people”, the writer is basically just saying that all the old policemen and army commanders should be given their old jobs back, regardless of what they did under a regime that the americans profess to hate. there’s an interesting historical parallel which isn’t mentioned: after ww2, the americans re-appointed all the local judges throughout germany, despite the fact that all judges had to be nazi party members. presumably to throw them out would have been to “reject some of germany’s best people”.

The US and its allies deal with the guerrilla threat by acting more like occupiers than liberators.

maybe because they are occupiers, and not liberators? but then admitting the very obvious might again cause some awkward questions.

US forces increasingly huddle behind their own security barriers, distancing themselves from ordinary Iraqis. The US has tactical military successes but alienates a large number of Sunnis in the process - Sunnis who feel increasingly disenfranchised as the Shia and Kurds gain a fair share of wealth and power. Remnants of the Ba'ath and Saddam loyalists mix with new elements of Sunni Islamic extremists to present a continuing threat. Even those Sunnis who do not want Mr Hussein come to demand a US/UK withdrawal from their country.

well, this might all happen, and it might not. but to present it as an excuse for continuing american occupation (sorry, liberation) is ridiculous. as for this: “even those sunnis who do not want mr hussein”, that’s hilarious. nobody wants saddam hussein back, even sunnis, the traditional iraqi upper class.

The US tries too hard to prevent religious Shia from gaining power.

how democratic. how strange that the heroic, democratic americans would even attempt to do such a heinous thing.

the rest of the article from here to the final paragraph is more speculative assertions of what could happen, though of course ignoring some very obvious but inconvenient facts. we skip to the final paragraph:

There is nothing inevitable about this worst case scenario. Indeed, these are precisely the pitfalls that US, Britain and others involved in the nation-building effort will try to avoid. But if they fail, the US may end up fighting a war against the Iraqi people. This is a kind of "asymmetric" war the US should never have to fight and cannot win.

shocking stuff, i’m sure you (and all right-minded people) will agree. how awful that the americans could end up fighting against the very people they liberated! what a bitter irony of history that the heroic americans, who can do no wrong, are forced into killing people they like!

okay. the basic thrust of the argument is rubbish, and obviously so, which raises the question: what is the purpose of printing rubbish in the financial times – why would the editors do such a stupid thing? well, it’s propaganda. this writer is telling educated americans what to think. the fact that it doesn’t stand up to even the most cursory examination is irrelevant. it is providing the outline of what will pass for civilised debate on the topic in the mainstream media from now on. those crazies who say things like “the americans illegally invaded and occupied iraq for their own power interests” can be safely ignored as idiotic. we all know that the real reason the americans invaded iraq was because they desperately wanted to launch a nation-building effort. all that stuff about weapons of mass destruction was, em… well let’s just ignore that too.
 
propaganda comes from all sides. too many people speculating about a situation they learn of by second-hand information. most people dispensing information have have a vested interest in how the the information is taken up. the situation has gone beyond an actuality and has thrown so many complex issues of assertion that i cant listen to anybody tell me what they 'think' is happening in Iraq without thinking it probably false.

Iraq has be pulled apart and torn down by powers beyond the peoples control for too long. speculate all you want but be thoughtful of what you hope for. siding with the enemy of your enemy without understanding what they are about is dangerous and short-sighted.
 
broken arm said:
propaganda comes from all sides. too many people speculating about a situation they learn of by second-hand information. most people dispensing information have have a vested interest in how the the information is taken up. the situation has gone beyond an actuality and has thrown so many complex issues of assertion that i cant listen to anybody tell me what they 'think' is happening in Iraq without thinking it probably false.

yup.

read widely and sceptically.
 
Just to say that this was published by the FT, but it's not that paper's agenda. In terms of issues such as these, they stand very much in the middle ground.
 
propaganda comes from all sides. too many people speculating about a situation they learn of by second-hand information. most people dispensing information have have a vested interest in how the the information is taken up. the situation has gone beyond an actuality and has thrown so many complex issues of assertion that i cant listen to anybody tell me what they 'think' is happening in Iraq without thinking it probably false.

Iraq has be pulled apart and torn down by powers beyond the peoples control for too long. speculate all you want but be thoughtful of what you hope for. siding with the enemy of your enemy without understanding what they are about is dangerous and short-sighted.

i dont think america and its 'allies' are masking what they do to a very high extent. The pretend they are there for liberation reasons, but it doesnt take much to see america is in financial stress and iraq having a lot of oil, which in turn , if controlled by america, would lessen its financial stress.

That doesnt seem to be too hidden, so if someone said that to me I could see the common sense in that and believe it.

Besides, I havent heard much propaganda from those fighting the americans ... we only hear the american side.

One thing .. i dont understand the theory of siding with the enemy of your enemy in this scenario. America isnt an enemy to any of us I dont think
 
billygannon said:
Just to say that this was published by the FT, but it's not that paper's agenda. In terms of issues such as these, they stand very much in the middle ground.

no they don't! they put a 'moderate' spin on essentially going along with whatever's happening as long as it doesn't infringe on the making of money. you could write their editorials in advance. they like to appear to take the 'middle ground', when they simply support power.

apart from their editorial/opinion stuff, which is cartoonishly hilarious, their news reporting is excellent.
 
silo said:
no they don't! they put a 'moderate' spin on essentially going along with whatever's happening as long as it doesn't infringe on the making of money. you could write their editorials in advance. they like to appear to take the 'middle ground', when they simply support power.

apart from their editorial/opinion stuff, which is cartoonishly hilarious, their news reporting is excellent.

Well, it's refreshing to read a paper who admit that they're in the business of making money. I don't imagine any paper with a large circulation is purely alturistic in their opinion pieces or editorials. Papers like the Guardian or the Daily Express know what their readers want to hear and will print that.
But I never read the FT editorials... I'm not subscribed to the site.
 
Chocohead said:
i dont think america and its 'allies' are masking what they do to a very high extent. The pretend they are there for liberation reasons, but it doesnt take much to see america is in financial stress and iraq having a lot of oil, which in turn , if controlled by america, would lessen its financial stress.

thats all a bit basic, init. would it not be cheaper to buy the oil on the world market and not spend tens of billions on a messy war etc? theres a lot more to it than that.

Chocohead said:
Besides, I havent heard much propaganda from those fighting the americans ... we only hear the american side.
One thing .. i dont understand the theory of siding with the enemy of your enemy in this scenario. America isnt an enemy to any of us I dont think

this is what im talking about. people claim to know what is best for Iraq and they are not that well informed on the country or its political structures. why presume one group is better than the other if you no nothing about one of the groups, ye know what i mean. For many america is the enemy so some people seem willing to side with any group that opposes america, dangerous methinks.

much 'middle-ground' reporting lessens the critical analysis of a topic and thus dampens reader reaction to that topic. It can be very subtle uses of language to sway opinion in a one particular way or another. it might be an idea to look at a particular papers treatment of other maybe less obvious topics to get an idea of where their 'loyalties' rest.
 

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