On reflection it looks more like a huge internal argument in the party than a looming scandal
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I know our lot are far from the Erdogans and the Orbans but it's still dizzying to see how many people are backing Michael Ring's assertion that Fine Gael is too far left.
I know our lot are far from the Erdogans and the Orbans but it's still dizzying to see how many people are backing Michael Ring's assertion that Fine Gael is too far left.
Don't' forget the big farmers.most traditional Fine Gael voters (i.e. bourgeois townies)
The referendum has likely sunk the hate speech bill for good or ill
I mean he's right, insofar as FIne Gael is not the party of social liberalisation, or it should not be their focus
They're supposed to be the crowd incentivising economic growth, which should pay for social housing
At least they know they have to do that
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I think you're rightI'd say the ringer has been in a few lock ins in his time...
Would disagree about the social liberalization.. the urban and rural wings of FG have always been fiscally conservative, but from the 80s/Fitzgerald era there has been a strand of social liberalism in the party.
Would disagree about the social liberalization.. the urban and rural wings of FG have always been fiscally conservative, but from the 80s/Fitzgerald era there has been a strand of social liberalism in the party.
The weird thing about that and 2 major socially progressive referendums happening under Varadkar's watch is that Varadkar has slagged Garret Fitzgerald in the past.
Going back to the 60's FG ran on a platform of "The Just Society" which was an idea the old guidance teacher in my school claimed to have come up with, to hear him tell it the party hadn't really a clue but they thought it sounded like a good slogan. He never made it to the Dail himself but ended up as a Senator. Some descendent of Daniel O'Connell.
I don't think that's entirely fair (at least in the case of some of the fitzgearld era folks who genuinely seems to want to pull ireland away from the church etc...), but it did cause party divisions etc. history repeating perhaps.
I dunno if growth is what we need tbhThey're supposed to be the crowd incentivising economic growth, which should pay for social housing
There’s still the conversation therapy bill coming this year, so we’ll see how he stands with that.The referendum has likely sunk the hate speech bill for good or ill
I mean he's right, insofar as FIne Gael is not the party of social liberalisation, or it should not be their focus
They're supposed to be the crowd incentivising economic growth, which should pay for social housing
At least they know they have to do that
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Is it though, is itbut it's still dizzying to see how many people
Yeah, it's the perpetual goal of making as much money as absolutely possible from housing that's causing it.It's not lack of money that's causing our housing crisis
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