I did answer them, you just dont like the answer.you didn't answer my other points.
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I did answer them, you just dont like the answer.you didn't answer my other points.
you said there were only two countries on the punk song thread. there was eight. music is played all over the world.I did answer them, you just dont like the answer.
Show me on the doll where the punk hurt youI dunno.
I went on that best punk thread thing and it was a range of about two countries, 4 instruments and about 6 years. I like to joke about it because for what it set out to be, its one of the most restrictive and exclusive genres of music. It is funny like. It is a bit condescending too sometimes. The the punks all have their own little brand names and uniforms and social codes and really its all about sentimentality. bless.
rap and electronic music are great! and they are old school too.I'm not punk enough to talk about punk. Sorry for breaking the rules of punk .
In my uneducated perception the whole idea of punk was you didn't need to have great chops and with a few cheap instruments could make great music that spoke of the time and talks about things the charts are afraid of. These days kids do that with laptops and electronics, with hip hop they did it with samples and twenty other youth music movements have done it since, and although it has all the qualities that punk originated from, it cant be respected as punk on the basis of not fitting with a few paramaters and a dress code.
To me this is an observable 'humans are funny creatures' moment. Point on the doll where your punk moment was better than any other youth movement and you cant see the musical kinship. You do get the same with other genres but jesus like, we've been discussion the need to define one punk band from another by country because the scope of 'punk' band names has that much overlap.
The days of it being a creative thing are long gone, now we can look at like anything else and enjoy the music but also not be wildly precious about it all, because its funny
Sellout.Punk's dead or fossilised because recognisable conformity is mostly dead
There's nothing to rail against - the horror of the 70s was a job for life and a mortgage.
Now you can wear a mohawk to your job, and flaunt all your tattoos and piercings, and no one GAF
The sound has been co-opted by any number of acts, so you get into the kind of arguments about who's a punk and who's not that the swimmers and people with DryRobes have. This has been baked in since the idea of part-time punks. Who's authentic and who's not? Everyone thinks they are. Shitheads are in the eye of the beholder.
The ability to make and distribute music has been democratised to an almost unimaginable degree - there's never been more ways to get your three chords and the truth out there. Or three donks and the truth or whatever you're having yourself.
In many ways punk won, individuality is the culture's godhead. Everyone's a sneering badass and cocking a middle finger, but at what?
In many ways punk lost, because capitalism is pretty much the air we breathe - and a primary complaint of twentysomethings is wanting a mortgage and a job with security.
ETA - I wrote this while on the phone on a work call. So don't come at me.
Just realised that Punk is basically an aesthetic, layered on top of hippy beliefs.Punk's dead or fossilised because recognisable conformity is mostly dead
There's nothing to rail against - the horror of the 70s was a job for life and a mortgage.
Now you can wear a mohawk to your job, and flaunt all your tattoos and piercings, and no one GAF
The sound has been co-opted by any number of acts, so you get into the kind of arguments about who's a punk and who's not that the swimmers and people with DryRobes have. This has been baked in since the idea of part-time punks. Who's authentic and who's not? Everyone thinks they are. Shitheads are in the eye of the beholder.
The ability to make and distribute music has been democratised to an almost unimaginable degree - there's never been more ways to get your three chords and the truth out there. Or three donks and the truth or whatever you're having yourself.
In many ways punk won, individuality is the culture's godhead. Everyone's a sneering badass and cocking a middle finger, but at what?
In many ways punk lost, because capitalism is pretty much the air we breathe - and a primary complaint of twentysomethings is wanting a mortgage and a job with security.
ETA - I wrote this while on the phone on a work call. So don't come at me.
A if they picked up and you wanted them to hear youWhat was the deal with those pay phones with the A and B buttons? I had nobody to ring in those days
I never knew that.A if they picked up and you wanted them to hear you
B if they didn't answer and you wanted your 10p back
Me throwing out quality phone historyA if they picked up and you wanted them to hear you
B if they didn't answer and you wanted your 10p back
I used to "tap" phones all the time back in the 80s/90s. Somehow it bypassed the payment mechanism in those old phone boxes. Never worked on the newer ones
Thinking you're a punk would be type of conformist thought that would automatically disqualify you from being a punk.Unless you're "one of them"
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