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Eric Wood Interview from VICE MAGAZINE:

"Sometimes you are lucky enough to get to interview someone who you hold in such high regard that actually talking to them is terrifying. I spent four hours on the phone to Eric and he was everything a dedicated Skull Servant could hope for and more. Below is an unedited version of what ran in Vice v6n10.

Work To Death

Eric Wood will never quit being a Bastard
Its hard to imagine how a band making songs played at hyper driven speeds with two bass guitars and song titles like “Screwdriver in Urethra Of Thomas Lenz” all played through speakers made out of salvaged junk ever failed to be anything other than huge in the early 1990’s. What else was everyone listening to?
Eric Wood’s work in a bunch of bands from Pillsbury Hardcore and Pissed Happy Children through to Man is The Bastard and Bastard Noise helped define hardcore punk music’s most extreme shapeshift: the west coast-centric powerviolence movement. Wood even wrote the song that first mentioned the term (“Hispanic Small Man Power”).
Backed by the totally never-heard-that-anywhere-before weird noises spilling out of Henry Barnes’s home made speakers Bastard Noise projects always stood apart from their contemporaries. With a brutally simple, aesthetic and politicized sloganeering Wood’s projects maintained a tireless work ethic that allowed them to stride along for years while their contemporaries gurgled and quit. Like Crass before them, Eric’s bands offered a self-sustaining alternative to a modern world gone to shit. Maybe in 50 years time in an alternate dimension they will be granted their dues. For now they can remain the most important band you’ve never heard.
VICE: There is a constant sense of intense brutality in everything that you have done. Why so angry?
Eric Wood: Listening to things like metal-era Agnostic Front, Rest In Pieces and Antidote just made us want to play and really play fast and hard. Make the bass prominent and just hyperdrive the rhythm section. Listening to and watching Infest was an influence in terms of that high level of uncompromising brutality and sheer velocity. They really took it to another level.
How did you end up playing in Neanderthal with Matt Domino from Infest?
We had played shows together and just knew each other. You have to remember that at that time there was a very small group of people involved in that kind of music. The night Pissed Happy Children and Infest played Gillman Street to record the split flexi-disc for Slap A Ham there were nine people in the room.
Is it true that you guys actually coined the term ‘powerviolence’?
Matt did. We were practicing one day and just talking about how we had to give what we were doing an identity and Matt just came up with it on the spot. He was really good at that: really great, quick, perfect ideas.
At the time was there a sense of the whole thing being this big movement?
Maybe later with things like the first Fiesta Grande festival that Dodge put on at Gillman but it was always more a sense of community. That is something that there isn’t so much of anymore. I’m not joking when I say that half the stuff we made happen back then communicating by letters was ten times better organized than half of the shit that goes on today with ‘ease’ of the internet. Just do it yourself and do it right.
The most obvious thing that set Man is The Bastard apart from your supposed contemporaries was simply not sounding like any of them. We have the boxes to thank there. Henry and his boxes. They are a force of nature. They aren’t even government safety checked. Apart from the cones every part of those things is built by hand and they will fry almost any in-house PA. They make sounds I’ve never heard before. Joel Connell and I already knew we wanted to push the two basses way out front and Aaron Kenyon was pumping a lot of Magma through the hardcore template but the boxes gave us a whole new range and we were just willing to take a chance and do something different.
How did you meet Henry?
I kind of already knew him from around town because he was known for being this weird guy who built bikes out of other bikes. That was his thing: making new things from neglected old things. These bikes were insane, like choppers with the big wheel at the front instead of the back. We ended up working shifts together in this bakery and one day he invited me round to his house saying I had to check out these speakers he had been making. His place was like a junk laboratory but once he played me the speakers I knew immediately: that was it.
What was the first thing you heard through the boxes?
I think Henry played me these noises he had been working on to try and communicate with the birds that sat on his window. I can honestly say he is one of the greatest souls and a true friend. The whole band wouldn’t have been shit without Henry, he gave it that distinct sound naturally ‘cos he built the boxes for the love of building the boxes. Henry’s main influence was his dad’s TV repair shop as opposed Merzbow.
How did you come up with the stark imagery that gave the Bastard Noise projects such a distinct identity?
I was aware from the get go how simple logos like the Flag bars, the Infest logo and the Crass circle could give things an immediate persona. You can put something that simple on your record or a t-shirt and you immediately have a visual thing to go with the sound. I just went into a library, found the skull in some medical journal, flipped it, made all the font super bold and brutal, kept it black and white and that was it. You can go into all these realms of complicated presentation and sometimes the message can get lost. Basic is brutal.
You’re discography is like the ultimate collectors nightmare. What inspired that work ethic and level of output?
I can point immediately to two acts: Merzbow and Agathocles. Both pump out a high level of high quality. Nonstop. That is they key: high level and high quality. Matt Domino was also inspiring for that. He could come up with a riff of staggering quality in seconds. I don’t know if he realizes just how gifted he is with that whole thought/genius thing. Plus I have this hunger inside that I can’t even explain, it’s like a voice that drives me. I started playing bass again recently ‘cos I was going to see shows and it was like this voice going “hey Wood, better get playing, there’s only so much time”. Just listening to records stirs the hunger. I was listening to Rorschach the other day, just hearing it made me want to bang my head on a wall it was so intense. You know the guitar player doesn’t even play now? He just sits at home and watches the tube. I can’t understand that mentality. That just makes me want to bang my head through the fucking wall.
Your projects have consistently been preoccupied with man being the vilest most fucked up animal on the planet.
Yes. Man IS The Bastard. Man’s folly and plunders will be our downfall, poor choice making by the worst animal on the earth. You just need to look around to see it is true. My father forced me into the US Navy at early an age and the twenty months I spent there allowed me to view things in a totally different light. In addition I have never been a massive reader but working night shifts in the bakery I would be listening to spoken word lectures on KPFK public radio in LA. That was what really got me going. I was hearing Terrence McKenna, Noam Chomsky and all these people filled with wisdom and I was just taking it all in and being repelled by the political system we are subjected to in the US. I was just staring into this big oven, loading the big steal trays with bread or whatever and getting angrier and angrier.
At the same time you have advocated feminism pretty fervently?
We all came from woman so it is necessary to love the female and have utmost respect for the feminine you know? We were all loaded with our own concepts all of which I was keen to get heard, initially a lot of them were mine but Kenyon and Connell really stepped up and kept bringing quality concepts and ideas to the table. A lot of people thought we were this crock of PC horseshit but that’s bullshit. We just had a conscience. How can you not?
You had a lot of similarly named projects running simultaneous. Were you just trying to confuse people?
To an extent they are all separate and distinct but at the same time they are sister and brother or sister and sister. Charred Remains was kind of thrown in there to keep people on their toes plus I was obsessed with wanted posters as a kid and they all had AKA on them for all their murdering, criminal aliases so I always wanted a record with an AKA on the sleeve. The main difference was that MiTB had all the instruments and Bastard Noise was just the boxes. When MiTB came to an end the focus shifted to Bastard Noise.
Could you talk a little about why MiTB cam to an end?
Let’s just say that aside from cannabis drugs can be very dark and destructive things. Whatever has been has been though and those people are my brothers. In fact I have some exciting news I can exclusively share here.
Great! What’s the scoop?
Bastard Noise will now for the first time be incorporating live instrumentation. I just had that hunger again to play and R.D Davies who played drums on Infest’s “No Man’s Slave” LP has stepped up to play drums and Leila Rauf who plays guitars and synths with me in Ion Channel will also be contributing.
So MiTB has been born again through the Bastard Noise?
Yes, exactly! Interview by James Knight ((NAME ME SOMEONE THATS NOT A PARASITE)). "
 
All I'll say is, that article about the guy eating the entire cow is one of the best things I've ever read.
 
vice is well written and covers lots of interesting/funny stuff.
a high proportion of dickheads read it.people dismissing it usually has more to do with that percentage of its readership than the magazine itself.end of.

interview was good but mostly stuff i've read before.
 
Ah no, half the stuff they do, when they stick to culture, fashion, music, etc. is pretty good. Its the other half, when they attempt to do "serious" journalism, that for the most part is completely cringeworthy. But yeah

vice is well written and covers lots of interesting/funny stuff.
a high proportion of dickheads read it.people dismissing it usually has more to do with that percentage of its readership than the magazine itself.end of.

interview was good but mostly stuff i've read before.

Though I think its gone down hill a bit in the last while since Gavin McInnes left.
 
Vice Mag is a crock of fucking shit. It's the Nathan Barley of writing.

It's entertaining and I read it when I come across it (if you know someone who's not a hypocrite please tell me about them), but it's really the most vacuously self-indulgent pseudo-intellectual fucking nonsense I've ever come across. They have interesting articles and good writers; that's not the problem. The problem is their self-conscious "mad" and "shocking" persona. Everything is so ridiculously post-modern; nothing means anything, nothing is sacred, everything's a target...and Daddy's picking up the bill, so who cares if we're smackheads anyway?

At first I thought it was great, because anything that disrupts expectations and business-as-usual has some intrinsic worth. But with Vice, that's all it is; there's no core. It was fucking hilarious when that cunt who started it gave the talk at the IFI and was saying how weird it was that they went to Baghdad and realised that the people there were actually real people. Even funnier when I asked why we shuld trust anything he said and he tried to give a heartfelt sincere response that Vice had grown a conscience and wanted to use their position to help people. Wow. Are you going to put the conscience pages before or after the rape pictures and the exploitation of homeless dudes? I love a good joke in bad taste as much as the next cunt, but these fuckers have no soul. These are the kind of people who don't jump in when a friend's getting beaten. The epitome of 21st Century spoilt rich kid moral vacuity.
 
I think you're point about self indulgence is unfair. Any form of expression ( be it art, music, writing etc.) is all about self indulgence, unless you're a hack. When you write a song, you're writing the music the way YOU want to hear it.

Also, I don't think its really meant to be anymore serious than something to read on the bogs.
 
If you bring that point to its logical conclusion, everything (not just creativity) is self-indulgence. The point for me, is whether it's self-indulgence alone, for the sake of self-indulgence, or whether it's got any side-effects of worth. The music I play with NDT, for instance; people have mistaken that the lyrics are about making political change. They're not. They're sentiments that allow me to touch levels of rage and release that I can't otherwise invoke. But if a side-effect is (and it has been) that it makes people distrust the police, question injustice and be intolerant of prejudice, then I'm glad. With Vice, it's all about the shock: nothing else. There's nothing behind the shock. It's all to get a reaction to and to attempt to dredge up some emotion from an emotionally desolate generation.

About it not being meant to be anything more serious than something to read on the bogs, that makes sense to me and ties in with Aonghus' point about it being the idiots who read it more than those write it having the problem. Just the same as arsehole nihilists or nazis using Nietzsche as an excuse. Whilst the likes of youse have the intelligence and experience to question things, a frightening amount of people don't. Most people are followers, only a few are leaders. And Vice Mag is a bible to tens of thousands. These people go on to exert influence on reality when they drop out of art school and get real jobs. They in turn push forward the agenda of self-centred vacuity and moral desolation. In the end, the people writing Vice might just be having a laugh, but the ones who copy them end up exerting a very real and dangerous influence on a society that's already hurtling out of control in terms of anomie, selfishness and alienation.
 
a society that's already hurtling out of control in terms of anomie, selfishness and alienation.

surely thats just human nature though, well in my opinion, in terms of selfishness and alienation, i think it's just standard fare of being a human.

In regards Vice, not a huge fan but I think it's an alright magazine. In regards Eddy Moretti in the IFI i think he was just being brutally honest when he said it took him going to iraq to see the them as 'real people', he's not the only person in the world who would think like this, in fact I would say most people think like that. When people don't understand another's society, customs, way of life that sort of thing is bound to happen. I know what he said might've been construed as being ignorant but I don't think he wasn't trying to validate it, just saying how it had changed his attitudes.
 
It's no Viz;

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A superior read in every way.
 
surely thats just human nature though, well in my opinion, in terms of selfishness and alienation, i think it's just standard fare of being a human.

I don't agree. VERY broadly speaking, some things help the situation (good music, art, education, literature, sex, community, good food etc), some exacerbate it (most drugs, most religions, property and inheritance laws etc).

In regards Vice, not a huge fan but I think it's an alright magazine. In regards Eddy Moretti in the IFI i think he was just being brutally honest when he said it took him going to iraq to see the them as 'real people', he's not the only person in the world who would think like this, in fact I would say most people think like that. When people don't understand another's society, customs, way of life that sort of thing is bound to happen. I know what he said might've been construed as being ignorant but I don't think he wasn't trying to validate it, just saying how it had changed his attitudes.

He may have been being honest; doesn't change the fact that at base level he's a fucking tool. Yeah, a lot of people in the world think like that -a lot of people are fucking tools. I think he was trying to validate it. Vice Mag with a conscience? It's like Hitler in a tutu...crass, amusing, and disturbing.
 
Vice is huge over here, and i can agree with the earlier point of dismissing it merely because of its readers, i have never read vice but if you see some of the people that swear by this magazine I can understand your haste to bar it!

However the last trencher gig here was done by vice, not to mention many bands' gigs including pulling teeth, career suicide and among others the locust! this magazine is getting bigger over here by the day but it doe bring positive aswell as negative points.
 
The Vice stage at Primavera was pretty damn good I must say, never even seen the mag, nevermind read it. Where would one get a copy in this fair town?
 
They give em away free round the local courier hangouts cause looking like a courier is all hip and trendy now. Nexttime im round ill pick up some n send em over!

I think they used to sell it in tower.....when tower wasnt HMV in different colours!
 
Maybe they should feature Ireland's premier (ex)courier core act? That'd be sound if ya could. I don't think I know you, bar your posts here and that other place.
 
ex-courier core act? explain

To be honest you dont realy have to, just slap a shitty looking moustache on em n a pair of drainpipe jeans and the vice crowd will love em!

Yeh ill let you know if i find any, i get post dirt cheap so its no worries!
 

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