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I used to there intentionally to check out the charity shops. I visited the army surplus store and the various hardware shops a lot. There's also a music shop where'd I'd buy strings and plecs. There's a popular music shop specialising in trad instruments. Other specialist shops include the catering industry place, a petshop and the sex shops. Then there's the bars including Nealons and Pantibar. It has a lot going for it. For now.
I bought the pants I use for gardening in one of those army surplus stores just off Capel St in the late 90s sometime.
 

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One thing you notice in the sticks more than dublin is that orbital shopping centres turn the innards of towns into rubble unless the towns are wildly proactive (see westport), and if you don't adapt you leave people living among ruins (see most towns on the n17).
Drogheda is a great example of this - half the main street is derelict, the other half is mostly pound shops. 3 or 4 shopping centres in the town itself, mostly empty, plus a few big retail parks on the outskirts

Wexford town somehow escaped this
 

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Drogheda is a great example of this - half the main street is derelict, the other half is mostly pound shops. 3 or 4 shopping centres in the town itself, mostly empty, plus a few big retail parks on the outskirts

Wexford town somehow escaped this

There was one little town I was driving through in the west near the n17 bypass, the entire main street was a video game pawn store type place, a bookies and an undertakers. What a life.

Dunno about wexford at all but i'm pretty sure westport were wildly proactive in saying that if you want to be a multinational there, you had to be town centre or GTFO, in fairness they did a good job of keeping the centre alive.
 

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I actually suspect the opera festival has a lot to do with keeping Wexford town centre alive via an influx of money in October. I very much doubt it has much to do with the competence of the local govt

edit: Westport is lovely for sure. Maybe it's something to do with towns beginning with W?
 

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I think any bulk/heavy item store is by defualt banished to m50 proximity at this point.

Bit of a look at capel st on google maps and it seems to be bookies, food places, pubs, newsagents*

*i suspect this word is reduntant too.

One thing you notice in the sticks more than dublin is that orbital shopping centres turn the innards of towns into rubble unless the towns are wildly proactive (see westport), and if you don't adapt you leave people living among ruins (see most towns on the n17). Nobody is going to capel street for a big shop or a set of armchairs or some of that rattan crap to decompose in their back gardens. The reason to go to cities in the traditional sense is in decline - you'd go for the variety, and you still get that with gigs and social in dublin, but for the rest variety is inevitably hoovered up by 4-5 chain stores.

I'm not sure i'd ever in my life drive to dublin just so i can drive down capel street, but i might eat there.
I do agree that it'll be a hummus jedward style place soon enough, but i don't think it's really in need of cars to sustain it's current setup either.

yeah - pretty much any small- medium sized town centre in the midlands has either been killed outright by proximity to larger 'shopping towns' or by having shopping centres at a distance from the traditional centre.

much wailing and nashing of teeth in portlaoise about the decision in the early 90s to build a shopping center outside on 'the link road' rather than in an old industrial site ''kelly's the foundry' adjacent to main st, It remains a pretty good case of a missed opportunity. They built buy to rents and a massive hotel instead
 

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people advocating for a nuclear power station in ireland
who do you think is gonna build it
who do you think is gonna wade through environmental red tape
who do you think is gonna do some sweet background deal that we end up paying for
outlier chance somehow the catholic church will own it
or whoever the media king of the moment are

mild nuclear meltdown after a twenty year four times over budget build with minimum six scandals, someone from the competition authority losing their job and somehow someone else will own it.

we* (*i mean the politicians and powermongers) cant be given life and death things to be doing
 

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PBH did a short documentary on it a while back that made a very realistic case for the fact that even if we decided to build one today, the process would take something in the region of 50 years to complete. Personally I think the time and money would be infinitely better spent going HAM on solar, wind & wave power.
 

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people advocating for a nuclear power station in ireland
who do you think is gonna build it
who do you think is gonna wade through environmental red tape
who do you think is gonna do some sweet background deal that we end up paying for
outlier chance somehow the catholic church will own it
or whoever the media king of the moment are

mild nuclear meltdown after a twenty year four times over budget build with minimum six scandals, someone from the competition authority losing their job and somehow someone else will own it.

we* (*i mean the politicians and powermongers) cant be given life and death things to be doing
Don’t forget the tribunal….
 

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PBH did a short documentary on it a while back that made a very realistic case for the fact that even if we decided to build one today, the process would take something in the region of 50 years to complete. Personally I think the time and money would be infinitely better spent going HAM on solar, wind & wave power.
Let the Chinese lads build one first over there

See what happens
 

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