The Russian invasion of Ukraine (5 Viewers)

[Unicron]

So ... phew then?

 

[JohnnyRaz]

elvis costello now thinking of ways to rewrite 'oliver's army' to 'vladimir's army' with a handy way of removing the lyric which has been problematic

''if your out of luck or out of work we can send you to Yerkaterinburg''

 

[Scientician 0.8]

So ... phew then?

On to the next circus!

 

[rettucs]

it was all a 'my mickey is bigger than your mickey' exercise.

The Russians said they never intended to invade. No one in Ukraine believed Russia were going to invade. Only dopes in this part of the world, and America, did.

It was Russia's 'we haven't gone away, you know', moment

 

[ann post]

Kinda wished they'd turned off the gas supply for an hour, a bit of reality woulda done Europe the world of good.

 

[nuke terrorist]

Putin has played a blinder. he hugely took the heat off himself domestically and put his grievances with NATO back on the agenda. NATO and the western media have been made look extremely paranoid and ignornant about issues in the region. the price of oil and gas is soaring. job done.

 

[rettucs]

Putin has played a blinder. he hugely took the heat off himself domestically and put his grievances with NATO back on the agenda. NATO and the western media have been made look extremely paranoid and ignornant about issues in the region. the price of oil and gas is soaring. job done.

and he exposed both the British and US governments as idiots, not that he needed to try that hard to do that

 

[flashback]

No chance he's rattled enough people's cages for Euro countries to get their energy supply in order then?

Putin's just demonstrated, again, he can rub everyone's face in it at any time of his choosing. Could you argue that at some point he's coming close to stepping over the line and forcing people to actually address the problem? Ie Germany etc are completely dependent on Russian energy.

Or would that be a naive thing to think.

What about the argument that he's just run a massive advertising campaign for NATO? No?

 

[chris d]

Yiz love your Russians-iz anyway don't yiz yiz cunts yiz

 

[magicbastarder]

buncha fucking commies

 

[magicbastarder]

So ... phew then?

it may be that putin isn't to be trusted.

 

[Lili Marlene]

it may be that putin isn't to be trusted.

The implication from this is that Putin is the only person involved in here who cannot be trusted, is this what you're saying?

 

[magicbastarder]

no.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Grand. The thumped irony meter goes a full 360 sometimes.

 

[magicbastarder]

it was just an off the cuff reaction to what i assumed 'phew, then' referred to - the promised but not yet apparent troop drawdown.

 

[magicbastarder]

as good a place as any to put this - map of european gas pipelines

ENTSOG - TP

 

[taubstumm]

the whole raft of stories a few days back about ukrainian grandmothers taking up rifles seemed almost like the perfect viral story for the anti-putin, pro-west set. and it pretty much got reported uncritically — front page photos, zippy articles about civil training and democratic resolve against the baddies.

it’s a pity, then, that the whole thing was a set-up by the azov battalion, an extreme-right ukrainian nazi group. it’s a bit crazy that if you look around for it in the english-language media, the nazi connection is only really reported as a kind of gonzo weirdness — like this article from vice, for example:

Why Is This AK-47-Toting Ukrainian Grandma Being Trained by Neo-Nazis?

A-79-year-old woman posed with an AK-47 in a photo-op set up by a neo-Nazi militia, showing just how surreal and complicated the conflict in Ukraine is.

www.vice.com

of course, anyone who starts thinking and saying things like “hey, wait a minute, why am I getting nazi propaganda on my front pages” is clearly a victim of russian misinformation and should be ignored

 

[Unicron]

the whole raft of stories a few days back about ukrainian grandmothers taking up rifles seemed almost like the perfect viral story for the anti-putin, pro-west set. and it pretty much got reported uncritically — front page photos, zippy articles about civil training and democratic resolve against the baddies.

it’s a pity, then, that the whole thing was a set-up by the azov battalion, an extreme-right ukrainian nazi group. it’s a bit crazy that if you look around for it in the english-language media, the nazi connection is only really reported as a kind of gonzo weirdness — like this article from vice, for example:

Why Is This AK-47-Toting Ukrainian Grandma Being Trained by Neo-Nazis?

A-79-year-old woman posed with an AK-47 in a photo-op set up by a neo-Nazi militia, showing just how surreal and complicated the conflict in Ukraine is.

www.vice.com

of course, anyone who starts thinking and saying things like “hey, wait a minute, why am I getting nazi propaganda on my front pages” is clearly a victim of russian misinformation and should be ignored

In the last few days one of the news aggrigator Irish lads, Chambers or Reilly was RTing stuff about some Irish guy in Kiev who said that he'd been there for 19 years, wouldn't be coming home, and would in fact be prepared to take up arms against invading Russians. I wonder who it'd be that'd supply the arms and train him in its use.

 

[rettucs]

In the last few days one of the news aggrigator Irish lads, Chambers or Reilly was RTing stuff about some Irish guy in Kiev who said that he'd been there for 19 years, wouldn't be coming home, and would in fact be prepared to take up arms against invading Russians. I wonder who it'd be that'd supply the arms and train him in its use.

The FCA

 

[Cormcolash]

Yiz love your Russians-iz anyway don't yiz yiz cunts yiz

YYEEEEOOOOOO