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thanks,I've worked in record shops.
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thanks,I've worked in record shops.
Pop is most easily described as an attitude, I think, because it doesn't have a real definition but you know it when you see/hear it.
Taylor Swift is, Lorde isn't.
The most common expression of pop music down the years has been young western white people enjoying their lives.
But that's a problematic thing in the 21st century. Rebecca Black, despite her name, never checked her privilege.
If Bono thinks that there are no valid channels for white guy anger (or whatever he said - I only saw the blowback on Twitter), there's a similar - likely just as spurious - argument to be made for young white happiness. No one wants to hear about your fucking privileged white life.
Don't you know what's going on in the world? Haven't you listened to hip-hop?
Hip-hop is usually deemed a more valid or authentic expression of life as its lived/enjoyed.
The problem exists where the audience for hip-hop is largely white and has become the inspiration for the next/current generation of white artists.
It used to be racist to tell Elvis he sounded "too negro", now Iggy Azalea is herself racist for doing more or less the same thing and the most unracist thing you can do is call her out on it.
tl;dr White people should listen to hip-hop but make Lorde records
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Lorde doesn't sound like Pop to me.Wait, what? Lorde makes pop records, what else could you describe them as? She very consciously makes pop records and says so. So does Taylor Swift.
The problem with pop music right now imho is best summed up here.
I'm not sure how it can get out of the stranglehold Spotify playlists have over the listening public, everyone thinks they're next-level woke and up to date with what they're listening to but it's as controlled as ever by the industry. At least back in the day there was a chance someone mad might get on Top of the Pops or there were some serious theorists working at the magazines who championed their own idiosyncratic tastes, I don't know if that can happen when it's all about listening metrics.
okThe problem with pop music right now imho is best summed up here.
Rap is just being what it is, being the What We Be playlist which may or may not exist. Pop is trying very hard to please, no one likes a tryhard, and it undermines the idea that these people have anything to say aside from LOVE ME.ok
pop has lost its way to the algorithm
but it's also stealing from rap, which has real attitude?
The Beatles and the Stones still hold up because they had their own thing going on as well as their influences.is this not full circle?
pop going back to the well, stealing from black artists the way the Beatles and the Stones did?
there's one at the end of the article, it makes an even better case than the article does!I am going to make a playlist with all the songs in that article.
First song that came up on shuffle was Fancythere's one at the end of the article, it makes an even better case than the article does!
heh, actually that one (and one other track which I can't remember) kind of stood out as a bit different from the rest to me, it's pretty sparse sonically. I veer between love and hate with Charli XCX (who wrote the track donchaknow), Sucker is one of my most played albums of the past few years but some of her PC Music stuff grates with me.First song that came up on shuffle was Fancy
record store guys are the lowest form of life
Cool song in fairnessFirst song that came up on shuffle was Fancy
Cool song in fairness
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