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[7 - No tomorrow]

Can someone refresh my memory, didn't Lucinda leave FG because their abortion stance was too liberal?

I could defo be misremembering.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Can someone refresh my memory, didn't Lucinda leave FG because their abortion stance was too liberal?

I could defo be misremembering.

She was expelled for voting against the Protection of Life Act

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

She was expelled for voting against the Protection of Life Act

Because it had circumstances that allowed termination, right?

 

[Lili Marlene]

Because it had circumstances that allowed termination, right?

Yeah.

In fairness the consequences are pretty severe either way

Meanwhile, Derek Keating, a backbench TD for Dublin Mid West, was informed by his parish priest that by reason of his vote for the government legislation he was to stand aside as a minister of the eucharist in his local parish church.

Michael McDowell: Church and politics both need doctrine of reform - Independent.ie

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Yeah.

In fairness the consequences are pretty severe either way

But her objection was of the holy Catholic Ireland/Dana variety.

 

[Lili Marlene]

But her objection was of the holy Catholic Ireland/Dana variety.

her new party on abortion:

we will be the only political party in Ireland and across Europe that has an open party position on Abortion... we do not believe party politics in Ireland has a place for issues of conscience.

which either means they just said that politics is not a place for conscience or they're 100% pro-choice so lets get that referendum going people!

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

her new party on abortion:



which either means they just said that politics is not a place for conscience or they're 100% pro-choice so lets get that referendum going people!

Bit of a cop out.
How are they on marriage equality and drug laws?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

You don't have to answer that.

Just thinking out loud.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Sure see for yourself anyway

Renua Ireland | Get Involved

it's all very vague and fairly contradictory from what i can see

 

[pete]

Renua Ireland | Facebook

 

[ann post]

paging @johnnystress

Sure see for yourself anyway

Renua Ireland | Get Involved

 

[therealjohnny]

Ha. I'm off work and can't access a PC..otherwise..

 

[ann post]

Sure see for yourself anyway

Renua Ireland | Get Involved

it's all very vague tbh

This is interesting.

What i'm taking it as is that on conscience issues they are not having a party whip. FF (very wisely) did this (Actually spoke to M Martin in person about this) meaning all their local TD's can just go with the flow and not loose seats.

I'm nearly dissapointed though. When I was making coffee i was cooking up a non slanderous freelance article (opinion) on how having an all out prolife party was the best thing ever for irish politics.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Children
There is no greater moral and political issue than securing the future of children.


such a nua way of looking at things



WOAH, MISSED THIS BIT

Renuanced | Broadsheet.ie

We intend in welfare to build a state structure that marries compassion with responsibility. Those who are not self reliant will be imprisoned rather than released by a life on welfare.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

her new party on abortion:



which either means they just said that politics is not a place for conscience or they're 100% pro-choice so lets get that referendum going people!

Surely its saying that politics should not overrule ones conscience? So the conscience is not a place for politics rather than the other way round.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Children
There is no greater moral and political issue than securing the future of children.


such a nua way of looking at things

Phrase reminds me of the 14 words.

 

[ann post]

Can you go on thumped in prison?

 

[eoinzy2000]

usual elitist disconnected bollocks.
Every bit I hear about this new party, it stinks of the same power hungry, egotistical, elitist shite that all these fuckers are driven by.
At least they didn't go by the "Reboot Ireland" name. Dicks.
Encountering these self righteous "for the good of the Irish people" politicians depresses me all the time.
I understand somebody has to do it, but people that enjoy that shit make me suspicious and leads me to think they're corrupt lying bastards.
RANT OVER

 

[pete]

Can you go on thumped in prison?

HMM

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

WOAH, MISSED THIS BIT

Renuanced | Broadsheet.ie

Just seen this part, I think they're getting at creating a welfare model based more on the Nordic/ system of intervening when necessary but encouraging individual independence overall as opposed to our current system whereby one can concievably live cradle to grave on welfare payments. The language however reads like something out of the Milton Friedman/Friedrich Hayek playbook.