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Froog, just out of interest, did you go to a catholic school and if so are you now atheist and if so, why?
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Froog, just out of interest, did you go to a catholic school and if so are you now atheist and if so, why?
ya went to a catholic secondary school, not really religous now, but not an atheist either. whether or not the school was catholic had no influence on my post-school beliefs at all. the fact that my school was catholic made no real difference to me, in fact you would hardly know it was "catholic" at all, religon class in first year was just a discusison on morals and safe sex and shit that no one really paid attention to.
Froog, just out of interest, did you go to a catholic school and if so are you now atheist and if so, why?
Sounds like an amazing school. Let me ask, do you think its acceptable that parents without any catholic beliefs should be forced to baptise their kids just to get them to attend such a school, when that school is the only option for the child to attend?
see that ian - not replying to you specifically - but that sorta question. i'd say the problem might be in what they dont teach because they have religious affiliations, rather then what they do teach because of it.
Sounds like an amazing school. Let me ask, do you think its acceptable that parents without any catholic beliefs should be forced to baptise their kids just to get them to attend such a school, when that school is the only option for the child to attend?
ah we're not in buttfuck alabama like, what secret stuff would they teach if they had no religous affiliation?
well in my school we spent two hours a week for at least three years on non examined 'religious education' classes. waste of time that. it doesnt necessarily have to to be 'secret'. i cant remember how long at national school was devoted to 're' - but i can still remember a bunch of shit songs. i'm sure the time could be bettter spent. also as i mentioned in my first post on this, out 'catholic' history course varies greatly from the 'proodestant' one taught up north (i mean that schools in the same townsare learning varying interpretations of history based on thier creed). that might not seem to make any impact in the 26 counties, but i know i'd rather unfiltered history to be taught to the people i have to live around.
It's not just athiests or agnostics who are affected by this. It's a problem faced by all non-catholics in Ireland, including those from other Christian denominations.
As a Christian I think it is unacceptable to have a situation where one Church (not even a religion), one denomination, can influence legal decisions and has free reign to force membership on families and children. The school situation is just one of many ways that Irish people are forced, indirectly, into catholicism.
well in my school we spent two hours a week for at least three years on non examined 'religious education' classes. waste of time that. it doesnt necessarily have to to be 'secret'. i cant remember how long at national school was devoted to 're' - but i can still remember a bunch of shit songs. i'm sure the time could be bettter spent. also as i mentioned in my first post on this, out 'catholic' history course varies greatly from the 'proodestant' one taught up north (i mean that schools in the same townsare learning varying interpretations of history based on thier creed). that might not seem to make any impact in the 26 counties, but i know i'd rather unfiltered history to be taught to the people i have to live around.
ah we're not in buttfuck alabama like, what secret stuff would they teach if they had no religous affiliation?
I been thinking about this and really, this isn't about secularism versus catholic church at all, is it? It's about secularism versus lapsed catholic. This wasn't a problem when we were growing up because secularism had little traction at the time: now it's commonplace (by secularism in this context I mean those who would prefer no religion in their children's lives, and certainly not their education). But the real problem is that, for secularism to take root properly, and for choice to be available to non-catholics, the lapsed catholics are the ones clogging the way. You can't blame an institution run by a religious organisation for making their beliefs a part of their every day, but you can blame a country for not providing another option. And so long as people continue to support this by pretending to believe, when they don't (and I'd say this makes up a huge number), well, it'll just stay that way.
ya went to a catholic secondary school, ........., in fact you would hardly know it was "catholic" at all, religon class in first year was just a discusison on morals and safe sex .....
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