Racism in Ireland (1 Viewer)

nuke terrorist

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Joined
Dec 21, 2004
Threads
10
Messages
853
Location
'north munster'
used to work on at a piggery from 90-93 during summer.
the pigs ate 8 times the amount of feed that they retained in weight.
and the water wastage in meat production is far more shocking.
have been vegan for 26 years food wise now (not including medicines though).

i often call myself a Bogger but i don't like the term culchie at all.
this may have something to do with being called
" a fucking culchie bastard ," on several occasions when i was
a child by various Dublin kids my own age, all unprovoked.

i have a health dislike of upper middle class Dubliners -
a very strange breed. they can't even do being posh properly.
likes of David McWilliams doesn't cut it compared to the proper
Anglo toffs here in Boggerland.

until i was nearly 23 i lived in places that were generally about
2 miles from a village and 5 to 7 miles from a market town.
i often came home on Friday and didn't leave home again until
Monday. feeling little or no affinity with the local community.

i do have to say that we often cracked jokes about the local
town which had especially little to recommend it back then.
and the entire of it population could get dragged in.
back then i used to go to Dublin more often than i would go there.
 
Last edited:

egg_

Moderator
Staff member
Supporter
Since 1999
Joined
Nov 15, 1999
Threads
582
Messages
10,031
Location
Where dogs wear hats and birds fly backwards
Lads, anti-culshie or anti-southsider bigotry isn't nice, but it doesn't really matter. That's just people being nasty.

When my parents were getting an extension on our house in the 80s, they specified to the building contractor "no townies". Our house is just across the Slaney from Wexford town, you can actually walk into town in 10 minutes - but still, no townies. One townie slipped through the net, and my Ma caught him boiling eggs in the kettle. Fucking townies, wha?
 

hermie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Joined
Mar 26, 2003
Threads
110
Messages
6,423
Location
blemmer
Website
Visit site
used to work on at a piggery from 90-93 during summer.
the pigs ate 8 times the amount of feed that they retained in weight.
and the water wastage in meat production is far more shocking.
have been vegan for 26 years food wise now (not including medicines though).

i often call myself a Bogger but i don't like the term culchie at all.
this may have something to do with being called
" a fucking culchie bastard ," on several occasions when i was
a child by various Dublin kids my own age, all unprovoked.

i have a health dislike of upper middle class Dubliners -
a very strange breed. they can't even do being posh properly.
likes of David McWilliams doesn't cut it compared to the proper
Anglo toffs here in Boggerland.

until i was nearly 23 i lived in places that were generally about
2 miles from a village and 5 to 7 miles from a market town.
i often came home on Friday and didn't leave home again until
Monday. feeling little or no affinity with the local community.

i do have to say that we often cracked jokes about the local
town which had especially little to recommend it back then.
and the entire of it population could get dragged in.
back then i used to go to Dublin more often than i would go there.
Grew up in the burbs so was equally despised by both city and country folk, matched only by self-hatred. Got called a culchie for being from County Dublin and then a thief whenever you found yourself outside the Pale. Had to contend with fake inner city accents and the GAA clique. Couldn't wait to get out of there but actually don't hate it so much whenever I go back nowadays. Would have been laughed out of school at the mere suggestion of playing rugby. But took it up in my 20s after a band broke up and found myself at a loose end. Absolutely love it. All shapes and sizes, all walks of life. Of course there are quite a few D4 teams but not so many posh boys outside of them.
 

ernesto

Big stanks
Supporter
Joined
Mar 21, 2004
Threads
205
Messages
15,605
Location
in my head
Website
strikeaction.bandcamp.com
Grew up in the burbs so was equally despised by both city and country folk, matched only by self-hatred. Got called a culchie for being from County Dublin and then a thief whenever you found yourself outside the Pale. Had to contend with fake inner city accents and the GAA clique. Couldn't wait to get out of there but actually don't hate it so much whenever I go back nowadays. Would have been laughed out of school at the mere suggestion of playing rugby. But took it up in my 20s after a band broke up and found myself at a loose end. Absolutely love it. All shapes and sizes, all walks of life. Of course there are quite a few D4 teams but not so many posh boys outside of them.
feckin turncoat wha!

man, we need to talk about that GAA clique when i see you again
 

ann post

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2002
Threads
369
Messages
20,519
Location
Internment Explorer sp3
Can't remember if I said this on this thread or not but the real sadness is anyone from Ireland anywhere who doesn't realize that they we all cluchies and will be treated as such globally for generations to come. At best be have cluchies mimicing things they saw on British tv pretending they are cultured. Suck it up and own it, we are the most rural Europe in the West.
 

7 - No tomorrow

Feisty
Supporter
Contributor
Joined
Sep 28, 2007
Threads
296
Messages
29,429
Location
On a platform shaped like a HIV positive foetus, a
Website
theppk.com
The happenings in rural Ireland remind me of this RIchard Rorty book from 1998, where there's a very prescient passage about the 2016 election in the US.


At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for — someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots. …
One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past 40 years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion. … All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet.


He felt this would be around 2014, so he was pretty close.

No two countries are the same, but I think of this quote when I ponder where Peter Casey and TD Grealish's support comes from.
 

nuke terrorist

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Joined
Dec 21, 2004
Threads
10
Messages
853
Location
'north munster'
being a Bogger kid nearly 30 years ago and me getting into music !
see also post at top of this page...

i live in a village 100 odd miles from Dublin.
if you don't drink here here you can be fairly isolated.
i loved soccer as a child so since i moved to the area
in 1989, my GAA cred has been zilch.
regardless of age or gender any local will know more
about hurling than me.
hurling scene has it's faults but mostly i like it.
(Camogie is also huge locally)

people are usually perfectly OK here but often a bit boring/unadventurous.
animal rights aren't popular obviously.
class divisions aren't that evident.

i love having my own space and doing things on my own.
i felt very isolated from the outside world much more so
that my friends growing up.

i'd ask some of them why they went to stupid local night clubs
(A: to meet girls) when they listened to SONIC YOUTH, MINISTRY
HELMET, NIRVANA, JESUS LIZARD, SABBATH, METALLICA or whatever.

a CD in 1992 usually cost about £12 or more that's about
30 Euro today kids ! a tape or LP was £8-9 (say 22 Euro).
even then this was a blatantly obvious rip off.
this was the main reason why i did not buy many records until i was 16.

i went to a secondary school which had NO youth soccer teams
in it's catchment area. that totally changed in the 90's.
loads of lads had nowt to do once they quit hurling.
much worse of course for girls.

the kids at my schools were almost harmless.
no real bullying (apart from some of the teachers) and
some laughably stupid wimpy fights.

when i'd start arguing with a teacher who was shouting at
the class or calling me names, the class would be a bit shocked.
if it was nearly anyone else they wouldn't say anything.

the curriculum was hopelessly out of date
remember the conservative values in the Irish and English
short stories ?
the books compiled by Prof Augustine Martin were published
in 1969 and none of the content seemed to relate to anything
in my parents lifetime.
e.g. Chesterton's Islamophobic poem Lepanto and the dubious
inclusion of Patrick Pearse poem.
there was a lot of Xenophobic isolationist attitudes 1920-60's
Ireland still around.
i hate that era and wasn't afraid to criticize it's sacred cows.

we would be very careful not to say anything critical of
religion or mention abortion to and adult
- simply very unsure how they would react

at school the usual stuff you would expect also was present
sexism, homophobic jokes etc.
in 1991 aged 15 if i had been asked to name five LGBT etc
folks i couldn't do it.
i knew Andy Bell (Erasure) was a gay rights campaigner
and that was probably all.
no knowledge of gay stereotypes meant i was clueless
Boy George, Kenneth Williams, Holly Johnson,
Mr. Humpries etc were the real deal !

not being into music much or socializing (at all) or doing homework
much gave me time to work my ideas out in my own mind.
there was a lot of vindication when i found other folks
were angry about similar things but not too many new ideas
that i hadn't already worked out for myself.
but DIY was a new idea to me - do things for fun not money.

some old friends have a doom metal band for years,
a few met up at HELMET recently, one guy was into Black metal
and then mixing BM and techno on the decks !

when i left school one of my biggest aims was that
i wouldn't let isolation stop me discovering music.
i was just starting to write 'letters' to any interesting
addresses i found and this quickly paid off.
by the end of the year i had ordered things off
Scotland, Sweden Finland, Germany, Japan
several parts of the USA etc.

i know the doom metal guys above were into tape
trading and made loads of friends that way.

now i don't feel isolated and also we've had people
from China, India, Poland, Bulgaria, Czech, Slovakia,
Zimbabwe etc. live in our little place.
few things give me much more satisfaction that
talking to someone from a place i've read about.
as much as anything it was embarrassing not almost
no one wanted to come to Ireland decades ago.

after my mid 30's i became strangely OK with place
and i'm happy enough to be here now.
 

therealjohnny

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Joined
Nov 1, 2002
Threads
323
Messages
30,288
Can't remember if I said this on this thread or not but the real sadness is anyone from Ireland anywhere who doesn't realize that they we all cluchies and will be treated as such globally for generations to come. At best be have cluchies mimicing things they saw on British tv pretending they are cultured. Suck it up and own it, we are the most rural Europe in the West.
Yep. The amount of Dubliners whose parents are from the sticks who consider themselves superior. I can't imagine what Northern Irish unionists feel when English people refer to them as Paddies and bogtrotters.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create a thumped.com account. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Previous thread

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

We're listening to...

  • The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place
    Memorial
    Explosions In The Sky
    The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place

Support thumped.com

Support thumped.com and upgrade your account

Upgrade your account now to disable all ads... If we had any... Which we don't right now.

Upgrade now

Latest posts

Trending Threads

Latest threads

Top