Racism in Ireland (1 Viewer)

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Probably the wrong thread, but what is going on with these antifa clashes with others groups in Dublin lately.
What's it about?

 

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Someone said there was racist graffiti on the Ha'penny Bridge this morning. Did any of you see it?
 

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there's a good bit on twitter about the supposed plans to remove 'to kill a mockingbird' from the JC syllabus, with lots of white people outraged that black people may not appreciate a powerful book on racism. i think. hard to tell anymore.
 

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there's a good bit on twitter about the supposed plans to remove 'to kill a mockingbird' from the JC syllabus, with lots of white people outraged that black people may not appreciate a powerful book on racism. i think. hard to tell anymore.

Yeah I got challenged with 'censorship/ sanitising art and music too? Etc etc

And my response to such a tweet was along the lines of
'maybe we should hear what some black people have to say about it/ Growing up being called that word and then it's in your curriculum would be shit / check your privilege' type comment.
and no response
 

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Yeah I got challenged with 'censorship/ sanitising art and music too? Etc etc

And my response to such a tweet was along the lines of
'maybe we should hear what some black people have to say about it/ Growing up being called that word and then it's in your curriculum would be shit / check your privilege' type comment.
and no response

also there's nothin stopping school kids taking it out of the library.
it's just the curriculum we are talking about
 

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there's a good bit on twitter about the supposed plans to remove 'to kill a mockingbird' from the JC syllabus, with lots of white people outraged that black people may not appreciate a powerful book on racism. i think. hard to tell anymore.
Lots of people repeating the same phrases over and over and over. "Censorship!" "Privilege!"
 

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I'd very much take the teacher's side on this one.

Actually, I just listened to it. Probably wouldn't take the teacher's side on this one. I think he's actually obfuscating the issue by talking about censorship and what happened in 1950s Ireland. The 2 things aren't the same here at all. In 1950s Ireland, you had a large powerful organisation, the church, actually banning and censoring films and books. And that practice continued up until the 1990s. Nirvana and REM had videos banned from Irish TV back then due to their blasphemous content.
What people asking for here is an update of text on the Junior Cert Syllabus to better reflect the times that we live in, it's not the same thing at all. No one's asking for these books to be banned or removed from the shelves. It's a relatively similar issue to what's happening in American Colleges. People have requested that more authors of colour be studied, and people are going nuts about it because it's almost being deemed sacreligious that someone would dare change the syllabus, as if the syllabus was a sacred document handed down from God. Rather than a collection of books that the head of faculty that is open to change at any time.
 

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yeah, i had heard TKAM described several times as 'a book about racism for white people' and find that hard to fault. while it's no doubt a good book, it's a book about racism told from the perspective of a white person, with a 'white saviour' myth included.

it was funny that all the people i saw arguing on twitter about it, with the 'this is an incredibly powerful book on racism and it'd be a retrograde step to ban it' argument, were all white.
 

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