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My uncle always used to say that he showed Arty his first chords on the guitar
Billy Hughes (1948 - 20 December 2019)
Hughes won FA Cup with second division Sunderland in 1973.
he scored several crucial goals in thrilllers on way to the final -
one in semi against Arsenal and two in 5th round replay against
Man City which is rated as the best Sunderland match ever by
many older fans.
he later played in division one for Derby and Leicester and won
one cap for Scotland.
Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1948) - Wikipedia
Tributes paid to Sunderland AFC legend and 1973 FA Cup winner Billy Hughes
and a player i never heard of:
Yuri Pshenichnikov (1940 - 20 December 2019)
Uzbek/Soviet goalkeeper.
playing most of his career with Pakhatkor Tashkent (1960-67
and his final season in 1972) Yuri was a Soviet champ with
CSKA Moscow in 1970.
at international level he debuted in 1966 taking over from
Lev Yashin and won the last of his 19 caps in 1970.
he played in USSR team that reached semis of 1968 Euro Champs
in Italy. his career ended due to injury aged 32.
he was later an assistant manager, manager and goalkeeping coach.
Пшеничников, Юрий Павлович — Википедия
(Russian language wiki)
Hughes won FA Cup with second division Sunderland in 1973.
he scored several crucial goals in thrilllers on way to the final -
one in semi against Arsenal and two in 5th round replay against
Man City which is rated as the best Sunderland match ever by
many older fans.
he later played in division one for Derby and Leicester and won
one cap for Scotland.
Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1948) - Wikipedia
Tributes paid to Sunderland AFC legend and 1973 FA Cup winner Billy Hughes
and a player i never heard of:
Yuri Pshenichnikov (1940 - 20 December 2019)
Uzbek/Soviet goalkeeper.
playing most of his career with Pakhatkor Tashkent (1960-67
and his final season in 1972) Yuri was a Soviet champ with
CSKA Moscow in 1970.
at international level he debuted in 1966 taking over from
Lev Yashin and won the last of his 19 caps in 1970.
he played in USSR team that reached semis of 1968 Euro Champs
in Italy. his career ended due to injury aged 32.
he was later an assistant manager, manager and goalkeeping coach.
Пшеничников, Юрий Павлович — Википедия
(Russian language wiki)
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Martin Peters (1943 - 21 December 2019)
English footballer died yesterday - yet another victim of Alzheimers.
an East End boy, Martin made his West Ham debut in spring 1962.
despite being a regular starter by 1964 Ron Greenwood didn't
select him for any FA Cup matches in West Ham's 1964 Cup
winning campaign (the club's first major trophy).
the following year Martin won a European Cup Winner's Cup
medal after West Ham beat 1860 Munich at Wembley.
like Geoff Hurst, Martin only debuted for England shortly before
the 1966 World Cup on home soil.
his goal in the 1966 Final which put them 2-1 up in a 4-2 win against
West Germany was only his 8th cap, playing in right midfield.
until the 70's England remained major contenders (semis of 1968
Euros) but in 1970 in Mexico a superior side to '66 class blew a 2-0
lead against West Germany to lose 3-2 in the last eight.
Martin scored again that time but was later substituted - a big
error in hindsight.
further disappointments followed and he won his last cap in 1974
after Poland had qualified for '74 WC at England's expense.
Peters was captain for Ramsey's last few matches in charge but then
only won one more cap.
Martin scored 20 goals in 67 caps.
in March 1970 perhaps tiring of playing in a mediocre club side he
left West Ham after 302 League games and 81 goals, joining Spurs.
the deal valued Peters at a record £200,000 (£150,000 plus
an over the hill Jimmy Greaves valued @ £50,000 going the opposite
direction). at Spurs Martin won two League Cups and the UEFA
Cup in 1972. after another 189 League games and 46 goals he joined
Division 2 Norwich in spring 1975 with the side on the verge of
promotion under John Bond his former West Ham team mate.
Martin spent a further 206 League matches (196 in Division 1) scoring
44 more goals with the Canaries until 1980.
the only disappointing spell of a stellar career followed at Sheffield
United. joining as a player/coach on '80 Martin took over as manager
in 1981 but with the club crippled with debt he couldn't prevent them
sinking into Division 4 for the only time in their history in 1981.
he quickly resigned having already retired as a player (but played some
non League football after).
of the 1966 squad only Peters and Alan Ball were still playing at the
start of the 1980's.
Martin played 882 career matches scoring 220 goals.
of his 721 League games, 688 (169 goals) were in Division 1.
this is the second most top flight games by an out field player after
John Hollins and fifth most in total behind Shilton, Hollins, Clemence
and Jennings (all contemporaries of Peters that he played against many times).
Martin was a complete midfielder, usually in an attacking tole but
who played in every position on the pitch in his career (even in goal
in an emergency).
he scored some cracking goals and once recalled a goal (against Leicester ??)
where he dribbled the ball the length of the pitch.
often he took penalties and free kicks.
after retiring from football he worked in the insurance business and did
PR and hospitality work for West Ham and Spurs.
a legend at three clubs, Martin's family and children are all Hammers fans.
of the 1966 22 man England squad Martin is the ninth to pass away and
fifth player who played in the final, having been seriously ill since 2016.
by all accounts Peters was a low key gent off the pitch, never in the media
for anything other than football until his dementia became public.
as well as below links there are many highlights clips of matches
he played in on you tube.
Martin Peters - Wikipedia
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/foot...rnational-football-career-for-england_a12075/
full international career details. including a detailed article
where the writer also compares him to Bryan Robson.
In Martin Peters, football has lost an all-time great unchanged by glory
Why Martin Peters was so pivotal to England's finest hour
Premier League + 1. Division - All-time appearances
above is list of players with most Premier League / Division One (pre 1992-93) appearances.
9 of Peters' goals for West Ham:
Peters is number 4 in the West Ham clips
16 of Peters' international goals
English footballer died yesterday - yet another victim of Alzheimers.
an East End boy, Martin made his West Ham debut in spring 1962.
despite being a regular starter by 1964 Ron Greenwood didn't
select him for any FA Cup matches in West Ham's 1964 Cup
winning campaign (the club's first major trophy).
the following year Martin won a European Cup Winner's Cup
medal after West Ham beat 1860 Munich at Wembley.
like Geoff Hurst, Martin only debuted for England shortly before
the 1966 World Cup on home soil.
his goal in the 1966 Final which put them 2-1 up in a 4-2 win against
West Germany was only his 8th cap, playing in right midfield.
until the 70's England remained major contenders (semis of 1968
Euros) but in 1970 in Mexico a superior side to '66 class blew a 2-0
lead against West Germany to lose 3-2 in the last eight.
Martin scored again that time but was later substituted - a big
error in hindsight.
further disappointments followed and he won his last cap in 1974
after Poland had qualified for '74 WC at England's expense.
Peters was captain for Ramsey's last few matches in charge but then
only won one more cap.
Martin scored 20 goals in 67 caps.
in March 1970 perhaps tiring of playing in a mediocre club side he
left West Ham after 302 League games and 81 goals, joining Spurs.
the deal valued Peters at a record £200,000 (£150,000 plus
an over the hill Jimmy Greaves valued @ £50,000 going the opposite
direction). at Spurs Martin won two League Cups and the UEFA
Cup in 1972. after another 189 League games and 46 goals he joined
Division 2 Norwich in spring 1975 with the side on the verge of
promotion under John Bond his former West Ham team mate.
Martin spent a further 206 League matches (196 in Division 1) scoring
44 more goals with the Canaries until 1980.
the only disappointing spell of a stellar career followed at Sheffield
United. joining as a player/coach on '80 Martin took over as manager
in 1981 but with the club crippled with debt he couldn't prevent them
sinking into Division 4 for the only time in their history in 1981.
he quickly resigned having already retired as a player (but played some
non League football after).
of the 1966 squad only Peters and Alan Ball were still playing at the
start of the 1980's.
Martin played 882 career matches scoring 220 goals.
of his 721 League games, 688 (169 goals) were in Division 1.
this is the second most top flight games by an out field player after
John Hollins and fifth most in total behind Shilton, Hollins, Clemence
and Jennings (all contemporaries of Peters that he played against many times).
Martin was a complete midfielder, usually in an attacking tole but
who played in every position on the pitch in his career (even in goal
in an emergency).
he scored some cracking goals and once recalled a goal (against Leicester ??)
where he dribbled the ball the length of the pitch.
often he took penalties and free kicks.
after retiring from football he worked in the insurance business and did
PR and hospitality work for West Ham and Spurs.
a legend at three clubs, Martin's family and children are all Hammers fans.
of the 1966 22 man England squad Martin is the ninth to pass away and
fifth player who played in the final, having been seriously ill since 2016.
by all accounts Peters was a low key gent off the pitch, never in the media
for anything other than football until his dementia became public.
as well as below links there are many highlights clips of matches
he played in on you tube.
Martin Peters - Wikipedia
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/foot...rnational-football-career-for-england_a12075/
full international career details. including a detailed article
where the writer also compares him to Bryan Robson.
In Martin Peters, football has lost an all-time great unchanged by glory
Why Martin Peters was so pivotal to England's finest hour
Premier League + 1. Division - All-time appearances
above is list of players with most Premier League / Division One (pre 1992-93) appearances.
9 of Peters' goals for West Ham:
Peters is number 4 in the West Ham clips
16 of Peters' international goals
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One life touches so many others
i watched a good bit of Martin Peters on you tube today looking for videos
to post. even at the end of his time at Norwich in his mid 30's he was
playing well e.g. the famous Norwich 3 - 5 Liverpool match in 1980
(where Justin Fashanu scored THAT GOAL).
also a two footed player he often wore number 11 and surprisingly to me
he scored a lot of headers...
as the man said in the above post John Bond got Norwich's one of best
ever bargains on a 31 year old.
sadly here's another Alzheimer's death of a player who played in the
1966 World Cup:
Fritz Kunzli (1946 -22 December 2019)
a team mate at club and country of Kobi Kuhn who also died recently.
Kunzli is the all time top scorer in the Suisse Liga (201 goals in 313 games).
he won two Leagues in a 9 year spell @ FC Zurich (1964-73) and
scored 15 goals in 44 caps (1965-77).
Fritz Künzli - Wikipedia
Fritz Künzli – Wikipedia (German wiki with much more info)
to post. even at the end of his time at Norwich in his mid 30's he was
playing well e.g. the famous Norwich 3 - 5 Liverpool match in 1980
(where Justin Fashanu scored THAT GOAL).
also a two footed player he often wore number 11 and surprisingly to me
he scored a lot of headers...
as the man said in the above post John Bond got Norwich's one of best
ever bargains on a 31 year old.
sadly here's another Alzheimer's death of a player who played in the
1966 World Cup:
Fritz Kunzli (1946 -22 December 2019)
a team mate at club and country of Kobi Kuhn who also died recently.
Kunzli is the all time top scorer in the Suisse Liga (201 goals in 313 games).
he won two Leagues in a 9 year spell @ FC Zurich (1964-73) and
scored 15 goals in 44 caps (1965-77).
Fritz Künzli - Wikipedia
Fritz Künzli – Wikipedia (German wiki with much more info)
Randy Suess, Computer Bulletin Board Inventor, Dies at 74 (Published 2019)
The messaging system that he and a friend created in 1978 was a forerunner of social media services like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
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These early internet stories are wildRandy Suess, Computer Bulletin Board Inventor, Dies at 74 (Published 2019)
The messaging system that he and a friend created in 1978 was a forerunner of social media services like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.www.nytimes.com
The egalitarian openness of it all - those boomers were such big dreamers
Download the entire internet in a couple of hours
RIP BBS man
paywalled, anyone waanna post the obit?
Randy Suess, a computer hobbyist who helped build the first online bulletin board, anticipating the rise of the internet, messaging apps and social media, died on Dec. 10 at a hospital in Chicago. He was 74.
His death was confirmed by his daughter Karrie.
In late January 1978, Mr. Suess (rhymes with “loose”) was part of an early home computer club called the Chicago Area Computer Hobbyists’ Exchange, or CACHE. He and another club member, an IBM engineer named Ward Christensen, had been discussing an idea for a new kind of computer messaging system, but hadn’t had the time to explore it. Then a blizzard hit the Great Lakes region, covering Chicago in more than 40 inches of snow.
As the city shut down, Mr. Christensen phoned Mr. Suess to say that they finally had enough time to build their new system. Mr. Christensen suggested they get help from the other members of the club, but, as he recalled in an interview, Mr. Suess told him that would be a mistake because others would just slow the project down.
“Forget the club. It would just be management by committee,” Mr. Christensen recalled Mr. Suess saying, noting that he was a self-taught computer technician whose decisions typically came hard and fast. “It’s just me and you. I will do the hardware, and you will do the software.”
The idea was to build a central computer that club members could connect to, using their own computers and telephone lines. They thought of it as an electronic version of the cork bulletin boards on the walls of grocery stores where anyone could post paper fliers.
Two weeks later, their system was up and running, and the club was trading messages about meetings, new ideas and new projects.
“It was a ‘meta’ system,” Mr. Christiansen said. “It was all about computers.”
At first, Mr. Suess suggested they call it C.E.C, short for Computer Elites’ Communication Project, but they eventually settled on Computerized Bulletin Board System, or C.B.B.S.
In the late 1970s and on into the ’80s, as word of their system spread through trade magazines and word of mouth, hobbyists across the country built their own online bulletin boards, offering everything from real-time chat rooms to video games. These grass-roots services were the forerunners of globe-spanning social media services like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
“Everything we do in terms of communicating with other people online can be traced back to Randy and his bulletin board,” said Jason Scott, a computer history archivist who made an online documentary about the creation of C.B.B.S. “The only difference is that now it is all a little slicker.”
Randy John Suess was born on Jan. 27, 1945, in Skokie, Ill., about 15 miles north of downtown Chicago. His father, Miland, was a police officer in nearby Lincolnwood, and his mother, Ruth (Duppenthaler) Suess, was a nurse.
After serving two years in the Navy and attending the University of Illinois at Chicago Circle, Mr. Suess held a variety of technical jobs in and around the city, including positions with IBM and Zenith. Like Mr. Christensen, he joined the new Chicago Area Computer Hobbyists’ Exchange in the summer of 1975. It was one of many such do-it-yourself computer clubs popping up around the country.
Mr. Suess and Mr. Christiansen built their electronic bulletin board using a personal computer called the S-100. After adding a modem that could send and receive data across a phone line, Mr. Suess soldered together some additional hardware that could automatically restart the machine and then load Mr. Christiansen’s software whenever someone dialed in.
“Randy pretty much built it from scratch,” Mr. Christiansen said. “It looked like it was put together with bailing wire and chewing gum.”
Mr. Christiansen offered to run the system from his home in Dolton, Ill., south of the city. But Mr. Suess, who lived in the Wrigleyville section of Chicago, insisted that it stay in his basement, so anyone in the city could dial in without paying long-distance charges. By the time they retired the system in the 1980s, its single phone line had received more than half a million calls.
Mr. Suess had by then built a much larger system called Chinet — short for Chicago Network — which connected to the internet via a satellite radio. The internet was so small that he could download the whole thing onto his machine in a single evening. Others could then browse this global collection of data, including a new version of C.B.B.S., through 22 phone lines plugged into a bank of modems on a wall.
Some dialed in from as far away as Australia and Singapore. Mr. Suess’s son, Ryan, remembered hearing the staticky whine of the modems at all hours of the day and night. “Eventually, it just becomes white noise,” he said.
In addition to his son and his daughter Karrie, Mr. Suess is survived by another daughter, Christine, and three grandchildren. His marriages to Agnes Kluck and Dawn Hendricks ended in divorce.
Forty years after its debut, a version of C.B.B.S. was still up and running, and anyone could access it, even from a laptop or a smartphone. This month, the bulletin board spread word about Mr. Suess’s death.
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R.I.P. Dave Riley, former bassist of Big Black dies at 59
Dave Riley, the one-time bassist of Chicago's seminal hardcore outfit Big Black, has died at the age of 59.
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Shite,been listening to a bit of Big Black recently too
Fuck.
only just heard about Dave Riley.
when all BIG BLACK's stuff was reissued in 1992 by Touch & Go
i became a big fan, listening to Atomizer a few times a week.
as a 17 year old they were a huge gateway band for me.
their records still sound awesome and they made a good call
stopping when they did, a great band having run it's course.
i knew Dave was had a stroke about 1993 but sadly it was cancer took him.
only just heard about Dave Riley.
when all BIG BLACK's stuff was reissued in 1992 by Touch & Go
i became a big fan, listening to Atomizer a few times a week.
as a 17 year old they were a huge gateway band for me.
their records still sound awesome and they made a good call
stopping when they did, a great band having run it's course.
i knew Dave was had a stroke about 1993 but sadly it was cancer took him.
Duncan MacKay (1937 -25 December 2019)
Celtic and Scotland captain from pre Jock Stein glory days.
capped 14 times at right back.
Former Celtic captain Duncan MacKay passes away
Johnny Matthews (1946 - 25 December 2019)
sent from Coventry by Jimmy Hill to Waterford United in 1966
where playing as a striker alongside local man Alfie Hayle he won
6 LOI titles in 13 years at the club.
in European Cup he scored against Celtic and Man Utd.
he later won another championship with Limerick United in 1980
and had a legit goal disallowed against Real Madrid in a match (1-2 defeat)
played at Lansdowne that year.
Waterford legend Johnny Matthews dies aged 73
Johnny Matthews - Wikipedia
Celtic and Scotland captain from pre Jock Stein glory days.
capped 14 times at right back.
Former Celtic captain Duncan MacKay passes away
Johnny Matthews (1946 - 25 December 2019)
sent from Coventry by Jimmy Hill to Waterford United in 1966
where playing as a striker alongside local man Alfie Hayle he won
6 LOI titles in 13 years at the club.
in European Cup he scored against Celtic and Man Utd.
he later won another championship with Limerick United in 1980
and had a legit goal disallowed against Real Madrid in a match (1-2 defeat)
played at Lansdowne that year.
Waterford legend Johnny Matthews dies aged 73
Johnny Matthews - Wikipedia
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Jerry Herman :-(
Hans-Jorg Criens (1960-2019)
German footballer also died on Xmas Day (heartattack).
Borussia Moenchengladbach player who scored 94 Bundesliga goals.
Criens was the same age as his 'Gladbach team mate Lothar Matthaus.
Hans-Jörg Criens - Wikipedia
Hans-Jörg Criens – Wikipedia (in German)
Hans-Jörg Criens: Bundesliga-Legende im Alter von 59 Jahren gestorben - WELT
Gladbach lost 4-0 in the second leg though - ouch.
German footballer also died on Xmas Day (heartattack).
Borussia Moenchengladbach player who scored 94 Bundesliga goals.
Criens was the same age as his 'Gladbach team mate Lothar Matthaus.
Hans-Jörg Criens - Wikipedia
Hans-Jörg Criens – Wikipedia (in German)
Hans-Jörg Criens: Bundesliga-Legende im Alter von 59 Jahren gestorben - WELT
Gladbach lost 4-0 in the second leg though - ouch.
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Rip Bob Skavna from The Jollars. Another Irish punk gone far too soon. A great musician and friend to many , esp here on Eirecore. Funeral is today.
Was very sorry to hear this and have been thinking about how difficult this must be for his close friends and family. Met him years ago and he was an absolute gentleman.
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