Are they a whiny pop punk band, where the guitar player does that jump in the air thing they all do? I've never listened to them. Just assumed.I was down a nostalgia based youtube hole, and apparently Jimmy Eat World is Emo. Are they?
I don't think they're any more Emo than Damien Dempsey, or Pantera.
Maybe it's a production thing. I'm not technically clever enough to explain, but you get what I mean.
Yes.Are they a whiny pop punk band, where the guitar player does that jump in the air thing they all do? I've never listened to them. Just assumed.
I remember when that Bleed American song came out we (me and my mates) saw it as, I guess, post hardcore? More specifically we saw it as part of a wave of bands building on At the Drive-In, who were in turn building on Refused and Fugazi and so on, it was the more commercial end of that stuff. We saw The Middle as a very pleasing pop rock song, a bit like Pulling Teeth by Green Day perhaps, or a particularly good Dave Grohl song. I never heard anything past that album though, or before it for that matter.
When i think 2000s emo i think Victory Records.
It all got washed away by the Strokes and the garage rock revival in terms of THE KIDS though.
Just my impression at the time, i hadn't come across Jimmy Eat World before Bleed American, was that a major label debut perhaps?This confused me as I was sure Jimmy Eat World predated At The Drive In but having looked it up they're both about the same age. Makes sense that in my head they'd be parallel with one being the poppy end of post hardcore aka emo and the other being the arty end. Funny enough wikipedia has them emo for both.
Genre nerding hard here sorry everyone.
Goth was a noun before it was an adjective as it referred to a tribe/population. The architecture, literature and music were all gothic but it was a return to the original to call the black clad snakebite drinkers of the 80s goths.Emo also went from being an adjective - "an emo band; an emo song" - to a noun - "I'm an emo." Did this happen with goth as well I wonder?
So many questions!
Just my impression at the time, i hadn't come across Jimmy Eat World before Bleed American, was that a major label debut perhaps?
this video from 1986 is the earliest mention of emo I have seen. it always makes me laugh.
basically early emo was Husker influenced bands that came out of the hardcore scene in the mid 80's e.g. Embrace, Rites of Spring (plus a lot of other DC bands), Honor Role, Squirrel Bait etc.
Dag Nasty, Swiz, Verbal Assault etc were probably what would qualify as the best of early emo hardcore.
the term emo was a taken as derogatory from day one.
I first heard it in 1993 in Maximum Rock n Roll emo was widely used for bands on No Idea Records, Dischord etc plus particularly anything that sounded like Jawbreaker or J Church both from SF.
those bands definitely would not have embraced the emo tag.
also by 1993 screamo hardcore was an established thing - Rorschach, Heroin, ABC Diablo etc.
now after Green Day and Jawbreaker (who flopped) got signed things get very confused and I couldn't tell you the evolution of the word.
the first time I heard someone called herself ''an emo'' on a Channel 4 youth programme in the early 2000's, I couldn't stop laughing as 'emo' was considered an insult. she was probably a My Chemical Romance fan - a seriously bland pop/rock band.
30 years ago AFI started off as a sort early TSOL influenced band but would cover The Cure. they ended up in Depeche Mode territory on a major label about 20 years ago with a gothy image - so maybe that's a clue.
anyway that's my take on it but tell me off you think it's bullshit.
PS - I have hardly ever heard Jimmy Eat World but when I search my birthday on wiki two music things came up:
the video for Bohemian Rhapsody was filmed that day and the singer of J.E.W. shares my birthday.
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