Minor Musical Observations (1 Viewer)

[Lili Marlene]

Fuck, here's another one.

Please tell me i'm not the first one to notice this

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[GO]

Ha! Great observation.

I do not like that beat.

 

[flashback]

my wife is mildly annoyed by the fact that on some dublin bus double deckers warning, the 'next stop please' bell is a minor fifth apart depending on whether it's pressed upstairs or downstairs.
(she may have said a minor fifth, i'm not a musician, so i may have that wrong).

The opening kind of binging sound on Air's Cherry Blossom Girl was the same as the bing used to tell you the elevator was at your floor / door opening in my old institute in MD.

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ended up walking down the stairs because it was driving me mental with the ear worms.

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

That britpop drumbeat sounds like something Pop Will Eat Itself would have used.

 

[GO]

Oxygene PT 5 is basically a cover version of Ravel's Bolero.

 

[snakybus]

I've an inkling that that Britpop drumbeat and sound emerged from classic British synthpop - Yazoo, Human League, Gary Numan etc - and britpop bands rocked it up. It'd make sense that PWEI took it on.

 

[therealjohnny]

This was the first thing that sprung to mind. Similar sound.

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[ann post]

That's interesting.

Side theory that the drummers tend to be the ones dissapearing into the emergent drug scenes and it could be a carry over from the dance beats that would be ringing in thier ears.
It's essentially a dance beat, just with that fill to frame the bars. It's totally a programmer beat.

 

[egg_]

The Sleeper and Blur ones are disco beats with that cat-cat-cat on the snare, the Elastica is a straight up rock beat with the same snare thing. Flying Lizards is ... haha well kind of a different thing entirely

Interesting though. IMO the Flying Lizards song is the only one in which it's not annoying

 

[Lili Marlene]

This was the first thing that sprung to mind. Similar sound.

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ah yeah! absolutely. I was actually going through various Gary Numan and Human League songs yesterday trying to place it but that was what I was thinking of.

The Sleeper and Blur ones are disco beats with that cat-cat-cat on the snare, the Elastica is a straight up rock beat with the same snare thing. Flying Lizards is ... haha well kind of a different thing entirely

Ah egg, I appreciate the technical details but just as how writers shouldn't be allowed sing songs, musicians should not be allowed talk about music. Architecting about dancing, frankly. There's heaven and earth and everything inbetween happening in the "snare thing" there. Same with you @ann post and your "essentially a dance beat."

Interesting though. IMO the Flying Lizards song is the only one in which it's not annoying

🚫

 

[prefuse]

but just as how writers shouldn't be allowed sing songs, musicians should not be allowed talk about music. Architecting about dancing, frankly.

Really?

 

[egg_]

Ah egg, I appreciate the technical details but just as how writers shouldn't be allowed sing songs, musicians should not be allowed talk about music. Architecting about dancing, frankly.

Hahaha zing!

Non-musicians shite-ing on about music are like anthropologists making ill-informed pronouncements about some tribe without having bothered to learn the tribe's language

 

[Lili Marlene]

Really?

Nah. Sure most professional music writers can't write well about music either.

 

[snakybus]

ah yeah! absolutely. I was actually going through various Gary Numan and Human League songs yesterday trying to place it but that was what I was thinking of.

e.g. 8 seconds in

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I actually have used it (told the drummer to use it) in songs, based on my love of Magnetic Fields, who use it a lot, and they're influenced by the above.
e.g.

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It's the timbre of the snare used as much as the beat - feels synthy.

 

[Anthony]

Ha! Great observation.

I do not like that beat.

hate it

 

[ann post]

In my head it's in a joy division tune too, i have no idea which one

 

[dudley]

God, those Britpop songs all have *horrible* snare drum sounds, the Blur one is Death Magnetic levels of terrible

 

[Lili Marlene]

e.g. 8 seconds in

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I actually have used it (told the drummer to use it) in songs, based on my love of Magnetic Fields, who use it a lot, and they're influenced by the above.
e.g.

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It's the timbre of the snare used as much as the beat - feels synthy.

Yeah, it's a great beat. Britpop and synthpop forever. A lot of those bands would be coming from an early synthpop teenagerhood so it makes sense that it seeped in.

I like Magnetic Fields a lot but they're a bit serious musicians doing serious jokes in their clever art as opposed to a bunch of absolute chancers dropping in a disco-ish beat because they're chasing a hit, which is kind of more Britpop, and Gary Numan for that matter.

In my head it's in a joy division tune too, i have no idea which one

Heart and Soul perhaps? Or the synth-y Feels Like I'm in Love drums on Insight?

 

[therealjohnny]

Not close enough for the "___sounds like___" thread, but every time I hear this

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I get this stuck in my head

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Fuck you Villagers

 

[GO]

I think Villagers are shite and are a total rip off of yer man Sufjan.

And that Simpatico song? Pathetico more like