It's not an argument, I was just trying to put that part aside and focus on the slavery bitEverything dies is a strange argument because not everything is killed.
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It's not an argument, I was just trying to put that part aside and focus on the slavery bitEverything dies is a strange argument because not everything is killed.
TBH I don't care much about chicken slavery, so long as they're treated ok. I've kept chickens for years and they're assholesI'd have little complaint with meat being taken off the market but I guess I fantasize a lot about when my grandmother kept chickens as egg slaves
Humans are a human construct.Guuuuuys, can a non-human be a slave? Are they aware of their own slavery? Do they yearn to be free? I'm sure they're aware their life is shit in a factory farm but i'm not sure how far it goes. Is your pet dog a slave?
and constructs are a human construct. WhatzyerpointHumans are a human construct.
I just really like saying that.and constructs are a human construct. Whatzyerpoint
That's most likely your shoes! And that you're Electric.Also, I can't imagine how this would be linked to the nausea, but I've also been getting electric shocks from everything I touch for about the same amount of time... whats happening to me guys
It's not an argument, I was just trying to put that part aside and focus on the slavery bit
I'm going to post in the Minor Pleasures thread and put a link to this postAlso, I can't imagine how this would be linked to the nausea, but I've also been getting electric shocks from everything I touch for about the same amount of time... whats happening to me guys
I don't really have a strongly-held conviction on this tbh, it's more me trying to untangle a bunch of guilty feelingsIs true. Is there a level or form of animal farming that is not slavery in your book?
Free range/organic brings it's own issues however. Particularly with regard to land as you need more of it and thus need to clear more of the natural forest/habitat etc. Also the conditions still aren't always a whole lot better:I’m on board with most of this. The “well something else will consume it” bit less so and I think it kind of ties in with the plastics issue. Meat has gone from being something you included with less frequency than other foods to something that is essential to a meal for many people (“I am not able to get full without a steak or chicken breast LOL!”). This is partly because supermarkets have driven consumers towards prepackaged “easy” cuts and going to a butcher is now much less common. As such, you have a reinforcing cycle where:
1) People are removed from the source of their food by a couple of psychological steps (it is a homogenous thing in a box).
2) They don’t interact with the person who knows about the meat (“I don’t know if I like liver, what would you recommend I do with it”).
3) It’s yet another way that food is transported over large distances unnecessarily.
4) And another source of plastic waste.
I would much rather have less meat (and pay more)and have it come from somewhere local, with decent living standards for the animals, and have it in a reusable/compostable container than the current situation.
On a related note, how come you can buy free range chickens and free range chicken breasts but not free range wings or drumsticks? Where do the wings/legs of the chickens they use for the breasts go?
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