learning an instrument (1 Viewer)

[chris d]

wonder if that guy can play Lady Madonna.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

On a somewhat related note, can you "learn" piano by thinking in shapes like a big guitar dummy?

Ish. But chords relate back to scales etc, so you’re somewhat back to where you started
(Can’t play the piano, but have mucked about).

 

[moose]

On a somewhat related note, can you "learn" piano by thinking in shapes like a big guitar dummy?

Chord and scale shapes on piano are much easier to visualize than guitar.

 

[ann post]

i'm just curious how much my brain is set in stone now i'm more than halfway into my 40s. it didn't excel at music even when i was in my teens. i tried playing guitar back then but was lazy and sold my guitar when the music didn't start flowing magically from my fingertips.

Less than is reported or rumoured, brain plasticity continues through life and regular non strenuous excercise aids it for some reason i've forgotten

Anywhoo as a ex guitar teacher my recommendation is

regardless of which instrument you try, or wether you go online, in person or self guided you have to treat the first few weeks like starting a gym. you hand / ear coordination needs time to grow, you need to get a few things down to muscle memory and to be honest playing guitar is kinda about as natural is gripping a staircase banister tightly for 30 mins, so the first few weeks the body cries out a bit while learning a few things at once.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Less than is reported or rumoured, brain plasticity continues through life and regular non strenuous excercise aids it for some reason i've forgotten

Anywhoo as a ex guitar teacher my recommendation is

regardless of which instrument you try, or wether you go online, in person or self guided you have to treat the first few weeks like starting a gym. you hand / ear coordination needs time to grow, you need to get a few things down to muscle memory and to be honest playing guitar is kinda about as natural is gripping a staircase banister tightly for 30 mins, so the first few weeks the body cries out a bit while learning a few things at once.

neurons that fire together wire together. paging @Cornu Ammonis

 

[ann post]

On a somewhat related note, can you "learn" piano by thinking in shapes like a big guitar dummy?

Technically yes

but the ideal is to keep the eyes out of the equation unless sheet reading

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

neurons that fire together wire together. paging @Cornu Ammonis

Hebbian learning for life!

 

[magicbastarder]

fuck the C major chord and whoever invented it.

 

[moose]

fuck the C major chord and whoever invented it.

It's real easy on a piano.

 

[magicbastarder]

i'll damage the piano keys with the guitar though

 

[egg_]

fuck the C major chord and whoever invented it.

Didn't I say you should learn the ukulele instead?

https://ukulele-chords.com/C

 

[magicbastarder]

we have two guitars in the house, no ukeleles.

 

[GO]

Yeah C major can go fuck itself

 

[moose]

i'll damage the piano keys with the guitar though

You play the piano with your other hand.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Yeah C major can go fuck itself

you need a few sharps to keep things interesting

 

[magicbastarder]

i guess epiphone no longer make the express, the 3/4 scale electric guitar? was around at my sisters today and was asked to tune the shitty electric guitar she bought her sons, and just gave up, it's barely fit for firewood, simply cannot be tuned. the two lads don't bother trying to play it because it simply cannot be tuned correctly.

 

[GO]

i guess epiphone no longer make the express, the 3/4 scale electric guitar? was around at my sisters today and was asked to tune the shitty electric guitar she bought her sons, and just gave up, it's barely fit for firewood, simply cannot be tuned. the two lads don't bother trying to play it because it simply cannot be tuned correctly.

I've never come across a factory made guitar that couldn't be made playable.

I just google it ..22" same as mustang kinda.

The shorter ones often need to be tuned up a step to give a playable tension. I had a Hannah Montana axe that needed to be tuned to f#

 

[magicbastarder]

I've never come across a factory made guitar that couldn't be made playable.

this is a level below what i suspect you're used to. probably bought in smyth's. was tuned too high for normal tuning, so i tuned the low e down to where it should have been (i accept that normal tuning may not be the way to go), and by the time i'd tuned the next string down to A, it had thrown the low E too high - changing the tension on one string was having an effect on the tuning on all the others, so i suspect the neck was flexing.

 

[magicbastarder]

this looks like it:

https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toys/arts-crafts-and-music/musical-instruments-and-karaoke/musical-instruments/80cm-electric-guitar-with-amp/p/110724

 

[JohnnyRaz]

this is a level below what i suspect you're used to. probably bought in smyth's. was tuned too high for normal tuning, so i tuned the low e down to where it should have been (i accept that normal tuning may not be the way to go), and by the time i'd tuned the next string down to A, it had thrown the low E too high - changing the tension on one string was having an effect on the tuning on all the others, so i suspect the neck was flexing.

It would be odd to throw out by much - but all necks will shift slightly with string tension. I do see there’s no truss rod in that yoke you shared