Is it okay to eat meat? (1 Viewer)

[shidheat]

i'm a veggie except for burgers

I think cock was the funniest answer above

 

[oh shit]

It's not nonsense, Muscle Beach.
Want to explain why you think it is?

not really, but ok... in brief:
arrangement and design of human teeth/jaw
length of human digestive system
ph of human digestive fluid

cooking

and my favourites:
coronary heart disease
bowel cancer

 

[billygannon]

The Inuits pretty much only eat meat as there's hardly any edible vegetation in a tundra climate.

 

[Ex-User (250)]

The Inuits pretty much only eat meat as there's hardly any edible vegetation in a tundra climate.

excellently put my good sir. can i get you a smoking jacket for the season that's in it? spiffing.

 

[sarah]

I became a veg le tarian because I dont like meat. Im also not mad about the mass slaughtering of animals for dinner..but there it is. I think the whole food industry scenario has become extremely insane. the fact that there is skin in cheese simply baffles me.

In other news, I hate motherfuckers who say "oh you dont eat meat, but you'll wear a leather jacket!". eat shit pally.

what the fuck??

skin in cheese? explain give me more details.

I never really liked meat (except for heaviely processed stuff which is
really far removed from the source) I have never eaten more than
a few bites of a steak or anything, because it took way to long
to chew and it freaked me out because I'd start thinking about what I was eating.
So as I became more health conscious it seemed ridiculous to continue
to eat meat if I couldn't face up to it and eat something recognizably
from the animal I was eating.
I avoided going vegetarian for years... and I'm still not fully decided
on the whole vegan question.

But I definitely don't think meat or animal products are natural to eat
dairy isn't digested properly by the human digestive system meaning
most of the calcium is not absorbed.
you get a lot of calcium from greens as long as you have some
vitamin C to aid digestion, I think saying they were malnourished while
veggie are talking crap, saying they were lazy about eating properly and meat was a quicker more instant source or protein, would be more acurate.

 

[Unicron]

this thread stinks of moral cowardice. admit you don't really care or go vegan.

OK, I don't care (except for chicken) that much, I like meat, it tastes nice (except for lamb, bleuuch); I'd eat a baby if you cooked it right.

So yeah, I'm a horrible person, feel free to judge me.

 

[egg_]

not really, but ok... in brief:
arrangement and design of human teeth/jaw
length of human digestive system
ph of human digestive fluid

Ha!

So humans have the dentition and digestive equipment of herbivores? That's just not true - our teeth are no better adapted to eating plants than eating meat. We're omnivores. Vitamin B12 is only available from animal sources (unless you've access to modern biotechnology), and we need it. Lookit, I've heard dentition/digestion used on both sides of the debate, but I can't see how you can get around the B12 thing

But like I said, "natural" doesn't mean "right" but humans have eaten meat to various extents throughout our evolution

"Cooking" is no argument at all - practically all of our staple plant foods need to be cooked same as meat. We don't need to cook fruit, obviously - but we also don't need to cook fish

As for heart disease and cancer - can anyone really say that a good meat-eating diet is less healthy than a good vegetarian diet? Honestly you can't - there are just too many variables involved, and neither the data nor the statistical techniques to figure this sort of thing out are available

 

[egg_]

But I definitely don't think meat or animal products are natural to eat
dairy isn't digested properly by the human digestive system meaning
most of the calcium is not absorbed

Forgive me Sarah, but some things are true whether you think they're true or not. To say "dairy isn't digested properly by the human digestive system" is ridiculous - we don't absorb all the nutrients from anything we eat. You could as easily say the same about vegetables

 

[MDR]

Ha!

So humans have the dentition and digestive equipment of herbivores? That's just not true - our teeth are no better adapted to eating plants than eating meat. We're omnivores. Vitamin B12 is only available from animal sources (unless you've access to modern biotechnology), and we need it. Lookit, I've heard dentition/digestion used on both sides of the debate, but I can't see how you can get around the B12 thing

But like I said, "natural" doesn't mean "right" but humans have eaten meat to various extents throughout our evolution

"Cooking" is no argument at all - practically all of our staple plant foods need to be cooked same as meat. We don't need to cook fruit, obviously - but we also don't need to cook fish

As for heart disease and cancer - can anyone really say that a good meat-eating diet is less healthy than a good vegetarian diet? Honestly you can't - there are just too many variables involved, and neither the data nor the statistical techniques to figure this sort of thing out are available

I did an arts degree, so i dunno who's right, but I eat meat and enjoy it. Especially the B12 - mmmmmm.

The standard of meat in the shops though is getting progressively worse. especially chicken.

 

[moc]

I think saying they were malnourished while
veggie are talking crap, saying they were lazy about eating properly and meat was a quicker more instant source or protein, would be more acurate.

well at the time that i was a vegetarian (13-15years old) my diet consisted mostly of sweets so yeah laziness probably crept in there somewhere.

is this some sort of spin on the idea that we need to eat the cows cos otherwise there'd be millions and millions of them everywhere?

i suppose it could be taken like that, i just thought it was an interesting idea because, well, its true that cattle have many negative effects on the environment. maybe cattle and skangers should just be sterilised at the same time then???

 

[Ex-User (250)]

moo!!!

these dudes would have died out long ago without human intervention, no?

 

[Bag'o'cans]

Human jaws move in a motion that grinds and cracks - carnivores jaws tear.
Carnivores on average release 14 times more hydrocloric acid than humans to break down meat in the stomach.
Carnivores intestines are something like 4 times shorter than humans because meat festers and becomes putrid in the gut and has to be excreted much quicker than other foods.
Humans aren't built for meat. I do eat meat but have cut down alot lately, mostly due to laziness and the fact that eggs and lentils etc are much cheaper than 20 euro chicken breasts.

 

[sarah]

Human jaws move in a motion that grinds and cracks - carnivores jaws tear.
Carnivores on average release 14 times more hydrocloric acid than humans to break down meat in the stomach.
Carnivores intestines are something like 4 times shorter than humans because meat festers and becomes putrid in the gut and has to be excreted much quicker than other foods.
Humans aren't built for meat. I do eat meat but have cut down alot lately, mostly due to laziness and the fact that eggs and lentils etc are much cheaper than 20 euro chicken breasts.

that's such a horrible image

 

[egg_]

Humans ... carnivores

Dude, "carnivore" and "herbivore" are both very specialised feeding strategies, and humans follow neither. To say we don't naturally eat meat because we're not carnivores is like saying we don't naturally eat plants because we're not herbivores - it's just bollocks. We don't have the teeth of a cat, but neither do we have the stomach(s) of a cow. We're omnivores, and that's the truth

 

[snakybus]

no egg, those are the facts

the truth, as Indiana Jones will tell you, is something entirely different

the truth cares not for striploin steak

only for kobe steak

Now. I'm off to massage me bullocks.

 

[egg_]

Carnivores intestines are something like 4 times shorter than humans because meat festers and becomes putrid in the gut and has to be excreted much quicker than other foods

And the length of our digestive system has nothing to do with the fact that plant matter takes much longer to break down, I suppose?
"Festers" and "becomes putrid" are deliberately unpleasant words that in this context only obscure what is really happening - when something "festers" it simply means it is being broken down by the action of bacteria ... and bacteria in the gut are most active in the digestion of plant matter, producing as a by-product a load of fart gas

 

[egg_]

no egg, those are the facts

the truth, as Indiana Jones will tell you, is something entirely different

Fucken hell, you leave thumped and only return to disagree with me again

Ok re-phrase - we are omnivores, and that is a fact

 

[Bag'o'cans]

that's such a horrible image

Most of our food breaks down in this way it's said, bacteria break it down cos our diet is not natural to us apparantely and all the enzymes get confused and mixed up and it just rots in our stomachs instead which has a temperature of 37 degrees i believe.
check out all this weird shit http://home.bitworks.co.nz/trivia/body.htm

 

[Ex-User (250)]

snakey comes back and raises a biological debate. it's like coming home to a nice cup of tea.

 

[egg_]

bacteria break it down cos our diet is not natural to us apparantely and all the enzymes get confused and mixed up

It's you who's mixed up, mr o'canley
If bacterial breakdown in the gut is unnatural then it's unnatural for cows to eat grass