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True, but that's the thing about hipsters. They're contagious. The clothes and the affectations and the loving the sound of your own voice....jesus.
The logic is sound enough and then it gets turned into that self important waffle. And then you catch YOURSELF doing it!!!!!

Maybe Corey Taylor Taylor can get away with it, being who he is. It's different when you're hearing the same stuff from, "like, Corey?, from you know, Dalston or wherever".
 

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I'll watch it later

I just am commenting because he's done the super american thing of having a surname for a first name, while also having a double barrell name which is also the same name twice, while also having a surname that is one of the ones that stems from from a trade (spoiler - it means 'tailor') negating the need to say it twice as the historical capsule which the double barell preserves is made all the more meaningless my repeating it.

back to bitch about the video later no doubt.
 

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''Neville, Neville like Jacko they're bad
Neville Neville is* the name of their dad"

(* was. sung to tune of Rebel, Rebel)

RE your man Corey:

DANDY WARHOLS is one of the most appalling band names ever.
such an egregious attempt at being clever and hip only shows how
vapid the people who chose it are.
even THE DANDY VODAFONES would have been better.
 

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That 20 minutes really made me reassess the depths of my procrastination problem.
I'll watch it later

I just am commenting because he's done the super american thing of having a surname for a first name, while also having a double barrell name which is also the same name twice, while also having a surname that is one of the ones that stems from from a trade (spoiler - it means 'tailor') negating the need to say it twice as the historical capsule which the double barell preserves is made all the more meaningless my repeating it.

back to bitch about the video later no doubt.

Not only did I watch it, I googled him after for further procrastination. It turns out he just calls himself Taylor-Taylor for the laugh, no major meaning behind it. Also, he's 53.
Also, I'm not going to lie that there is a tiny smidgeon of me that's envious of the lifestyle. If I could get away with just playing music all day, I'd be ok with that.
 

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Happy to have every opinion columnist automated. Also the comments should be automated, also only other robots should read the columns.

I was saying to someone earlier, if this thing has learned how to do it by reading the internet then the fact that it reads like some primacy of logic Peterson disciple drives home the point that there are too many men writing about their opinions on things in the newspaper.
 

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I was saying to someone earlier, if this thing has learned how to do it by reading the internet then the fact that it reads like some primacy of logic Peterson disciple drives home the point that there are too many men writing about their opinions on things in the newspaper.
Yeah but I don't think having a robot write like a woman is the answer either.

This thing is just a parlour trick, I can see uses for it but wow, you got rid of some more jobs for humans, what an achievement. It reminds me of where the goal of Uber is to replace public transport and also to replace drivers with automated cars... I mean, you eventually have to have someone left with any money who can pay their uber fare.
 

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Yeah but I don't think having a robot write like a woman is the answer either.

I know, it was more a thought on the way it reflects what is already out there and was used as the basis for generating the copy.

At the same time there's a lot of talk in tech about the way that technology reflects the experience of your typical engineers (things like visual scanning has a harder time recognising black skin because engineers are more likely to be white and they test the tech on themselves and often don't consider that they should test for darker tones, or on an OT level things are designed with men, who tend to be taller and able bodied in mind) and it could just be that the AI was programmed by men.
 

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Oh yeah for sure, there was even a bit of a hubbub (quite rightly) a few years back about air conditioning.


a good indicator of all this is apparently wikipedia where the highest quality pages tend to reflect the interests of white men. You can either address this by hiring a load of women and people of colour to write articles or you can look at why it is that white men tend to have the most spare time to be working on their favourite wikipedia pages. I suppose the answer is to do both.
 

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Oh yeah for sure, there was even a bit of a hubbub (quite rightly) a few years back about air conditioning.


a good indicator of all this is apparently wikipedia where the highest quality pages tend to reflect the interests of white men. You can either address this by hiring a load of women and people of colour to write articles or you can look at why it is that white men tend to have the most spare time to be working on their favourite wikipedia pages. I suppose the answer is to do both.

There is a similar thing re IMDB, their best movies lists are almost always reflective of the tastes of men, because men are more likely to do nerdy shit like give scores to movies on websites.

I wonder if things like YELP which anecdotally seem to be more likely to have women write reviews on it are more gender balanced.
 

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a good indicator of all this is apparently wikipedia where the highest quality pages tend to reflect the interests of white men. You can either address this by hiring a load of women and people of colour to write articles or you can look at why it is that white men tend to have the most spare time to be working on their favourite wikipedia pages. I suppose the answer is to do both.
FYI content on wikipedia is only ever written by volunteers, so you can't pay people to fill in the gaps. The wikimedia foundation funds various diversity initiatives, and is very serious about them, but paying people to write articles is very much against the ethos of the movement

I've seen the "men have more spare time" thing before, but even if this is accurate I don't think 12% more leisure time per week explains the massive difference between, say, the numbers of male and female biographies on wikipedia (especially when women tend to use social media more)
 

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FYI content on wikipedia is only ever written by volunteers, so you can't pay people to fill in the gaps. The wikimedia foundation funds various diversity initiatives, and is very serious about them, but paying people to write articles is very much against the ethos of the movement

I've seen the "men have more spare time" thing before, but even if this is accurate I don't think 12% more leisure time per week explains the massive difference between, say, the numbers of male and female biographies on wikipedia (especially when women tend to use social media more)
I still haven't forgiven Jimmy Wales for saying Jeremy Corbyn attacking private schools is literally the holocaust.

But yeah, it's obviously more complex, including what people are socialized to do with their spare time for example.
 

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