David Kronenbourg
Well-Known Member
What's the point of that chart?
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I mean, remember "i work for the deep state and we are doing our best to undermine the current president" anonymous essay?I suppose any attempt to make a chart like this is going to inevitably invite quibbling, but putting “deep state” up in the red zone, without any further context or surrounding, seems... unhelpful? simplistic? reductive?
"World Ruled by Supreme Shadow Elite" is undoubtedly true, just maybe not their specific examples
I didn't know about Ancient Giant Trees, sounds great!
lol trueHow shadow are they really?
lol true
By definition we don't know. A great way to lose your mind though.
It'd be harder to believe if they didn't own all the banksWell, surely once people go down the rabbit hole of secret cabals and shadow governments that really run the planet it's only a short hop for a lot of people to "and they're all jews."
How shadow are they really?
Interesting and also, like, wrong. They're not synonymous ... but "antisemitic" and "bad" are synonymous, and the chart maker is just clumsily saying "anyone who believes anything above this line is a bad person"interesting that they seem to imply that antisemitism and conspiracy theorist are synonymous.
yeah, that was meant to be my point.Interesting and also, like, wrong. They're not synonymous ... but "antisemitic" and "bad" are synonymous, and the chart maker is just clumsily saying "anyone who believes anything above this line is a bad person"
Innoncent
You see the same kind of thing with the numbers of people quoted as dying in German death camps, people usually quote the number of Jews killed as if the other half of those killed didn't matter quite as much.
It’s worth remembering that the holocaust began not with the Jewish community but as an extension of the Nazi eugenics programme. In 1939, the Nazis moved from sterilising those with disabilities or other “undesirable” traits to murdering children under 3 - ostensibly placing the children into “care” and telling the parents they died of natural causes at a later date. In reality, they were murdered by overdose or being left to starve. To argue that the disabled were not an intended target is wilfully dismissive. I agree there was opportunistic mass murder but the holocaust was pervasive and more inclusive than the society that birthed it.the point is more that among the people explicitly targeted by the nazis for extermination, the jews were not only the vast majority of the victims, but were also the intended target.
millions of soviet citizens went to camps, not because the nazis ardently wanted them dead specifically, but because they were, essentially, inconveniently located on the way between berlin and moscow and were suspected of being communists.
whereas the reason that the camps were ever built in the first place was to kill jews. so the reason to insist on the significance of the jewish experience is because they were the main targets.
I realise this is all a digression on a digression, but there is a reason why the historians go to the trouble of this singling-out
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