oh i know, i just think it's kinda funny that the local authorities have to cut hedges belonging to landowners if landowners aren't doing it.
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Yeah - hedges are a sore point with me which is why I mentioned it.oh i know, i just think it's kinda funny that the local authorities have to cut hedges belonging to landowners if landowners aren't doing it.
oh, i know i'm like a stuck record on this, but it's the cohort who want to live on half an acre or acre in the middle of nowhere and then complain about lack of services which gets on my wick.Yeah but with tax, people with more money pay for people with less money, that's the social contract we all accept.
oh, i know i'm like a stuck record on this, but it's the cohort who want to live on half an acre or acre in the middle of nowhere and then complain about lack of services which gets on my wick.
i have a colleague who moved from clondalkin to south of gorey and wants us to have sympathy for his 180km round trip to work. he may have saved himself a bit on property tax but he's costing the taxpayer - and environment - more so he can have his acre of lawn and ride on lawnmower.
actually, i think my attitude stems from a dislike of lawns. fuck lawns.
Well they wouldn't have to if SOMEONE would just look after their own hedges!Our passive aggressive neighbours do it for us.
I'm still hedging my bets on it myselfIt's hard to know where the responsibility falls for hedges etc.
oh, i know i'm like a stuck record on this, but it's the cohort who want to live on half an acre or acre in the middle of nowhere and then complain about lack of services which gets on my wick.
i have a colleague who moved from clondalkin to south of gorey and wants us to have sympathy for his 180km round trip to work. he may have saved himself a bit on property tax but he's costing the taxpayer - and environment - more so he can have his acre of lawn and ride on lawnmower.
actually, i think my attitude stems from a dislike of lawns. fuck lawns.
Farming is strange in that they have a lot of assets but low income and big debts. It's going to take a lot of investment to get farming sustainable here.
I can't dispute any of this - you know far more than I do.Explain to me how this is incorrect:
- there's a few very large entities (eg Greencore) who scoop up very large subsidies, and there's a number of small farmers who also receive subsidies.
Ireland | FarmSubsidy.org
FarmSubsidy shows who gets subsidies under the European Common Agricultural Policyfarmsubsidy.org
- The subsidies are scaled on things such as head of cattle etc, meaning the more you have the more you get.
I guess the blindingly obvious solution is not scale subsidies on things like head of cattle. You subsidize each farmer an amount, essentially a living wage. That farmer could potentially own half of fucking Limerick, but they do not get subsidized any more than the farmer that owns a couple of acres. The person gets subsidized, not the area of land.
The total amount of subsidies remains the same, it's divided by the same number of people, but each person gets the same subsidy. That means that almost every farmer gets a very large increase in subsidy, and a few massive farms get much less.
Then massive farms (which are in reality look like vehicles for a company to gather subsidies at scale) either are profitable (they likely won't be because they are just subsidy gathering devices), or get broken up into smaller holdings. At that point a new farmer comes into the system, and receives the standard farmer subsidy.
Factors like children can be taken into account. For example, if the farmer has two children, both of whom work on the farm, those two individuals would qualify for some kind of subsidy too, not the same as the main farmer, but sufficient to be a living wage, until they become the main farmer at some point.
I thought that stopped along with the milk quota. I’m probably wrong, most of my information comes from 70 year old farmers that have had a few pints.I don't think you get subsidies based on number of livestock anymore, because that was a pretty strong incentive to overstock.
I don't think you get subsidies based on number of livestock anymore, because that was a pretty strong incentive to overstock.
Wow, you're right - Sheep Welfare Scheme - Irish Farmers' AssociationI know for example there was 10 euro a ewe fairly recently
I kind of agree with subsidising the people rather than the land, but I wouldn't call what you're proposing "blindingly obvious", and you'll find very few people who'll agree that farming collapsing is "fine". A big part of the reason for subsidies is food securityflashback said:I get the farming collapses the second you take subsidies out of the equation. That's fine. But subsidise the people doing the work, not the number of unprofitable outputs that people don't want
I only know that because a mate of mine was just applying for them.Wow, you're right - Sheep Welfare Scheme - Irish Farmers' Association
I kind of agree with subsidising the people rather than the land, but I wouldn't call what you're proposing "blindingly obvious", and you'll find very few people who'll agree that farming collapsing is "fine". A big part of the reason for subsidies is food security
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