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Ha I read that as GHD emissions and was thinking are those hair straighteners really that bad??
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Ireland’s Green Party Is Ready to Help the Right Stay in Power
Ireland’s conservative establishment was on the ropes after February’s shock election result. But Leo Varadkar’s caretaker government has exploited the COVID-19 crisis to regain his authority — and is now counting on the Greens to keep the center-right parties in power as a recession looms.
www.jacobinmag.com
Some harsh, harsh words.
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Ireland’s Green Party Is Ready to Help the Right Stay in Power
Ireland’s conservative establishment was on the ropes after February’s shock election result. But Leo Varadkar’s caretaker government has exploited the COVID-19 crisis to regain his authority — and is now counting on the Greens to keep the center-right parties in power as a recession looms.
Some harsh, harsh words.
Harsh
(But Fair)
Richie
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The Pat Leahy IT article that the Jacobin article refers to a couple of times makes a decent enough case for the Greens going into government, while making the huge pitfalls very clear (i.e. it's quite possible they won't be in a better position to influence national policy for quite a long time).. If they can actually get FG/FF to commit in a serious / quantifiable sense to the 7% yearly reduction targets along with a couple of the lesser key demands, and pull the plug rapidly in the event that they are being messed around, it might be worth the soul-selling.. I don't trust Eamon Ryan to do the pull plugging part though once he's set up with a nice ministry,
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Ireland’s Green Party Is Ready to Help the Right Stay in Power
Ireland’s conservative establishment was on the ropes after February’s shock election result. But Leo Varadkar’s caretaker government has exploited the COVID-19 crisis to regain his authority — and is now counting on the Greens to keep the center-right parties in power as a recession looms.
Some harsh, harsh words.
Where were the harsh bits? All I read was succinct analysis
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Well LOL at the idea of any of that happening
yep, and that's the massive task they face. and much as i'd like them to succeed, i don't know if they'll pull it off.
Pretty convenient the way the Greens are already being blamed for everything bad that FFG have yet to do.
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The fact that FFG have already framed the 7% as something that Ryan has to negotiate as opposed to something we are supposed to do to stay alive is probably A: the most important information needed at this time B: what people should be talking about.
The basic implication is that if we didn't have these pesky greens we'd go back 100% neoliberal destruction of everything.
The basic implication is that if we didn't have these pesky greens we'd go back 100% neoliberal destruction of everything.
If they can do this, then there has been no soul-selling. Fingers crossed
in 5 years time, when the country is on fire and politicians are feasting on the homeless, the message from FFG will be 'blame the greens, they failed to stop this when they did/did not (delete as appropriate) agree to go into government'.
Has anyone seen that doco thing "planet of the humans"?
I'm cynical of all the info in, but it shows just how a load of rich pricks can put on a green cloak and still fuck things up, while getting richer.
I'm cynical of all the info in, but it shows just how a load of rich pricks can put on a green cloak and still fuck things up, while getting richer.
I got debunked to all fuck I believe. I watched about 1/3rd
Yeah, I've seen some heavy criticism of it.
www.thenation.com
Not sure if Michael Moore has had the wool pulled over his eyes with it or if he himself is actually more interested in the historical corruption angle. Probably should watch it, eh?
Meet the New Flack for Oil and Gas: Michael Moore
Planet of the Humans is wildly unscientific, outdated, full of falsehoods, and benefits fossil fuel industry promoters and climate deniers.
www.thenation.com
Not sure if Michael Moore has had the wool pulled over his eyes with it or if he himself is actually more interested in the historical corruption angle. Probably should watch it, eh?
It serves as a caution if nothing else.
Against rich people?
Bill Gates is a good example of someone who has purchased endless good press while implementing all sorts of mad programs.
Bill Gates is a good example of someone who has purchased endless good press while implementing all sorts of mad programs.
Richie
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George Monbiot went to town on that Michael Moore doc too: How did Michael Moore become a hero to climate deniers and the far right? | George Monbiot
There's undoubtedly cynical shits out there profiteering from greenwashing but having a prominent left wing people's hero attack the renewable energy industry as a whole is an absolute gift to the climate change deniers / extractive industry lobby.
There's undoubtedly cynical shits out there profiteering from greenwashing but having a prominent left wing people's hero attack the renewable energy industry as a whole is an absolute gift to the climate change deniers / extractive industry lobby.
well blow me down.
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