Country music (1 Viewer)

[Kermit McDermott]

@snakybus knows more about teh Yanks than me, but I'm pretty sure that southern US culshies use that flag to mean "yeah man I'm a rebel fuck all y'all coming down from Dublin telling us what to do".

 

[therealjohnny]

Just because

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[egg_]

Well there is that but I think there's no doubt that that flag is associated with racism

For people living 6000km away it is, but I expect there's a bit more subtlety involved among people who are actually part of that culture

 

[snakybus]

Perhaps but as far as I know it's an official hate symbol, as a representation of the states that seceded from the United States during the Civil War in an effort to preserve slavery, plus it has been adopted by white supremacy for a long time. So there's "that culture" and then there's actual hanging folks from trees and burning crosses. I wouldn't say it's as potent as those, or as a swastika, but it's not far off.

 

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[egg_]

heh, @snakybus I was actually editing that comment to remove what I said, because really I'm very clumsily attempting to make the same argument that you are - namely that you can't reasonably look at another culture from half way across the world and claim to understand it well enough to condemn people who are part of it

 

[taubstumm]

might be worth considering that irish trad has had its share of racist hypercatholic weirdos

 

[Kermit McDermott]

Una Healy Rae as Daisy Duke

 

[Jerry Twig]

@snakybus knows more about teh Yanks than me, but I'm pretty sure that southern US culshies use that flag to mean "yeah man I'm a rebel fuck all y'all coming down from Dublin telling us what to do".

They know full well what the flag is and it stands for.

 

[Jerry Twig]

Though perhaps I'm misrepresenting you, Benny Cake, by suggesting you are reducing country music culture to a monolith.

Yes you are misrepresenting me somewhat @snakybus, but I appreciate very much that you are at least willing to engage on what I am trying to understand! I have never proposed that country music should be boycotted en masse. I know there's an alternative scene and I am sure there are outliers that are outspokenly anti-racist etc etc, and I am also sure you could play me country music that I'd really enjoy.

Rather I am saying that I've always been a bit at odds with the overall embrace of a music that comes from a sub-culture that was openly segregationist and still has artists that flirt with that to appeal to their commercial (and probably ideological) base. I don't understand the relationship to that culture. I am sure if you pooled voter preferences by music genre in the US only country music would come out overwhelmingly pro-Trump, for example.

But hey, whatever floats your boat I guess.

 

[nuke terrorist]

that reminds me - nothing else in Ireland mythologises the USA like Country n Irish scene does.

 

[nuke terrorist]

@snakybus knows more about teh Yanks than me, but I'm pretty sure that southern US culshies use that flag to mean "yeah man I'm a rebel fuck all y'all coming down from Dublin telling us what to do".

down here we burned U2, ASLAN, SOMETHING HAPPENS, FRAMES, KODALINE, BOYZONE and SCRIPT records in protest against the Dublin hegemony

 

[ann post]

that reminds me - nothing else in Ireland mythologises the USA like Country n Irish scene does.

This is the craic. I mean it is blatant, it is some mix of homage and pagentry - the cowboy boots, the hats, denims and gareth records and all that.

But like

So does the underground scene.

 

[nuke terrorist]

The Country N Irish scene is what it is - harmless and in fairness completely independent.
Probably the most conservative music scene here glamourises America the most. even a Paddy rapping in a NY accent doesn't come close.

I love hardcore punk more than any other genre but the youth crew / straight edge / tough guy stuff e.g. Bold, Chain Of Strength, Madball, Cro-Mags, Murphy's Law etc. never appealed to me and I own almost no records in that vein. I always think it's a bit strange to hear non US bands playing this kind of music.

 

[snakybus]

Fantastic collection

 

[therealjohnny]

Bringing it all back home

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[snakybus]

Holy moly. Hick hop.

Has potential as a genre. This potential has not been met.

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[therealjohnny]

Pee-yew

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

I watched the Nashville sonic highways last night. It wouldn't do a whole lot to make you want to listen to country music. Certainly not modern stuff anyway

 

[therealjohnny]

Good lord

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