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This is just stupid. It wasn't obvious at the time.The answer, of course, is to not start 2+ weeks too late after the country where the virus came from and had by far the most experience of it told everybody what to do, and I'm fucked if I'm gonna write you a manifesto explaining how bloody obvious that is.
No, it's not fair to say.I think it's fair to say that when a pandemic was declared ...
This is just stupid. It wasn't obvious at the time.
here's a worse post:
oh get fucked. It was a fucking joke. jaysus weptYeah good point, that post was like reading a synopsis of Dominic Cummings' last four weeks
No you weren't. Not on thumped at least. Have a look for yourself if you like https://thumped.com/bbs/search/176829/Really, weird that I was going around saying it then
When did I say any of this wasn't happening? Neither of us know how long it can take to push emergency legislation through all the required channels but maybe if they had been paying attention to China they could have got all these gears in motion weeks beforehand. Hell maybe they did, maybe they wanted to impose a lockdown on the day the WHO declared a pandemic but were unable to.No, it's not fair to say.
There are doctors, epidemiologists and data scientists working on this around the clock. They're trying their damnedest to make sense of the data we have, and to figure out how to fill the gaps where we're missing data. Lawyers had to draft emergency legislation to make the lockdown possible, and it had to get through the Dáil (and presumably the senate). Economists are trying to predict what economic effects all this will have, and plan for them.
The government has to try and understand all the advice they're getting so they can balance level of risk against economic damage. They have to figure out what they can lock down without disrupting supply chains for essential services, figure out how to increase hospital bed capacity, how to get access to university RNA sequencing machines for testing - all while knowing that they don't have near enough data, and that no matter what they do the economy is fucked and people are going to die
The government make decisions based on a lot of factors and they didn't stop being Fine Gael just because a crisis happened.If any of think that what we should do was "obvious" 4 weeks ago, then you have no conception of how complex this all is. The government appears to be following the best medical advice it can find. If you think you personally know better, or would do a better job, then you need to deflate your ego and grow the fuck up
Are you...questioning the experts????exactly, What @egg_ said
The WHO are the body responsible for issuing advice around this. Their advice has been pretty clear all along. The restrictions were introduced piecemeal, for good reason.
And lets not forget they called pandemic before time, because of some countries acting the absolute fuck.
Well apparently we're not actually allowed say anything in hindsight.Its a free country so feel free to take an economist's word on a virus, over that of actual experts in actual viruses.
There's lots we can say in hindsight. But, question, should we have shut down the world in 2002 when the SARS outbreak occurred? Just curious what those who know better than the WHO think about that one.
Sorrysure, hurl some more personal insults at me why don't you.
A sheepish +1 from me on thisAnyway lads - everyone should calm down a bit. This thread on Thumped has been a bit of a refuge recently from people arguing with each about who is more or less right.
Scutter - it's okay to admit you were wrong about something. Better than pretending it was a joke. We were all operating in the dark to some extent back then. It's understandable. And it seems so long ago now anyway.
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