my sister's youngest developed a temperature last night, and tested positive. i'd say her older brothers are delighted, no school for them for a week.
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same, lots of people I know are getting it. One of my sister's kids has it and none of the rest of them (her, her husband and 2 other kids) are catching it. They are doing daily antigens, all negative.In the last couple of months I've gone from what feels like knowing comparatively few people who've had it to loads of people who did and mostly described it as not too bad.
Still don't want it though. Thought I was sure to get it after the 2 funerals post xmas but seem to have been ok.
I'm going over to visit my daughter Daisy this afternoon ,shes finally out of isolation.
I'll tell you's what.. the kid has been properly sick . Its horrible to see and caused me great worry.
But she seems a lot better now. Still tired AF
Another downer thing I've been reading: this whole "viruses evolve to be less fatal" thing is bullshit as well.LILI DOWNER
"Bullshit" is a poor choice of word here tbh.Another downer thing I've been reading: this whole "viruses evolve to be less fatal" thing is bullshit as well.
This isn't aimed at you personally btw - everything I thought I knew about immunity and disease and vaccines before the pandemic hit turned out to be wrong.None of your internalised ideas of how viruses work is correct
But like that's an obvious thing. It's not like shit like the Plague or Smallpox ever got less fatal to people, we just got rid of them using an understanding of how they work.Another downer thing I've been reading: this whole "viruses evolve to be less fatal" thing is bullshit as well.
What do you reckon we should be doing that we're not? Genuine question. I'm just riding it out at this point and hoping I emerge unscathed.But like that's an obvious thing. It's not like shit like the Plague or Smallpox ever got less fatal to people, we just got rid of them using an understanding of how they work.
Ha, the covid horse bolted in Feb 2020. What we should have done was systematically shut down/rerouted flights in any area where the virus was detected, locked those areas down properly, and got rid of it before it had a chance to spread everywhere. Instead we let the global airline industry spread it all over the world. Everything since then is just damage limitation.What do you reckon we should be doing that we're not? Genuine question. I'm just riding it out at this point and hoping I emerge unscathed.
Sounds about right yeah.my understanding was that virus *can* evolve to be less dangerous, but that somehow people began to think that was inevitable. but it happens sometimes.
and that sometimes diseases become less common or less dangerous, but that's because they've managed to kill off everyone who was susceptible, and the survivors are the ones with natural immunity and pass those genes on; in effect it forces humans to evolve to be more resistant, rather than the disease evolving to be less virulent.
Just got elected close contact. 8 day craicumn awaits.
Herd immunity has come back up (although not perhaps as a management strategy) in terms of the sheer number of people who will have had covid by the end of this wave will confer a level of immunity worldwide.Sounds about right yeah.
I'm obviously speaking in generalities here, more about the vibes i'm seeing coming from family, friends and my social bubble, but i've just noticed the received wisdom recently being that this variant is "proof" that diseases become "less dangerous".
I remember way back in, like, June 2020 or so people were saying the same thing, along with the herd immunity idea, but then it faded away. The idea now seems to have remerged with Omicron, although the herd immunity idea largely hasn't?
Not bullshit "per se", fucking hell, you too! Stop trying to make my glib line nuanced!Herd immunity has come back up (although not perhaps as a management strategy) in terms of the sheer number of people who will have had covid by the end of this wave will confer a level of immunity worldwide.
To the point on mutating to be less contagious - there’s no guarantee one way or another. There is an advantage to a virus to be highly contagious and not immobilise or kill it’s host, and omicron quickly became the dominant variant where ever it got established. Somewhere there could be another variant that will be equally infectious, have a longer asymptomatic transmission period, and cause more disease, or omicron could mutate into something as tramissable but milder.
Equally the next seasonal flu could be a killer - may be smaller odds, but within a range of possibilities
So not bullshit per se, just bullshit if the other possibilities aren’t discussed alongside.
I think people have been catching Omicron a second time in South Africa.Herd immunity has come back up (although not perhaps as a management strategy) in terms of the sheer number of people who will have had covid by the end of this wave will confer a level of immunity worldwide.
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