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I was just watering my plants there, about 20% of which are growing in coffee leftovers and It occured to me that if I didn't drink coffee I wouldn't give a fuck about the planet, which I think is a factor that should be considered.
 
There probably has to be a better way to combat climate change then by destroying industries in poor countries that rely on the export market. The intersectionalities etc.
lol what are you talking about

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lol what are you talking about

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That's my point, I was talking about coffee, which is a source of income in loads of people in poorer countries because pricks like me are prepared to pay for good stuff. The food miles on it are really bad but in the grand scheme of things I wouldn't be going after the coffee industry when there's loads of larger problems that could take the hit.
 
That's my point, I was talking about coffee, which is a source of income in loads of people in poorer countries because pricks like me are prepared to pay for good stuff. The food miles on it are really bad but in the grand scheme of things I wouldn't be going after the coffee industry when there's loads of larger problems that could take the hit.
Yah, I was agreeing with you. You know, in a "funny" way.
 
Meanwhile in todays emails.
Okay I don't think spoilers actually make somethign impossible to google so I'm just gonna use roundabout language.. the council for the making of cow juice has enlisted a marketing firm to green up their image in the under 35s. get hyped for someone telling you WELL ACTUALLY COW JUICE SOMETHING SOMETHING A: types of methane B: consumers prefer...

Anyways, hi there marketing bot. Well done.
 
I wrote a letter to The Irish Times today, for the first time in about 20 years. Some fucking dope was banging on about "Ireland's carbon emissions are only 0.02% of the total, why we should we do anything about this?". His figures were wrong, and he's annoying, so I had to break my silence and respond. Watch out, Ireland!
 
I wrote a letter to The Irish Times today, for the first time in about 20 years. Some fucking dope was banging on about "Ireland's carbon emissions are only 0.02% of the total, why we should we do anything about this?". His figures were wrong, and he's annoying, so I had to break my silence and respond. Watch out, Ireland!

Hyped for this.
 
The maxim that no good deed goes unpunished requires little proof. Life supplies that most days and twice on Sundays. But if further evidence were demanded, one might point to the fate of the Green Party. Its punishment for being concerned with the good of humanity is that it has no real choice but to form a government with two parties most of its members distrust and some of them despise. The Greens are being subjected to moral blackmail, but with the twist that the blackmailer is within. It is their own values that force them to take the power that is on offer.

The problem for the Greens is that, on the big issues, they’ve been proven right. What were once eccentric and exotic positions are now the bloody obvious. Last week, Met Éireann produced a stark visual representation of the change in temperature in Ireland over the last century, with blue stripes for cooler years and red for hotter ones. Recent years present an ever-thickening wall of red stripes. Last year, Ireland’s average air temperature was a full degree hotter than in the period 1961 to 1981.

Yet the centre-right parties treat the environmental Last Chance Saloon like a cosy lock-in – plenty of time for another round and a sing-song. It must be utterly exasperating for the Greens to be expected to take on the role of the nagging child in a maudlin Victorian temperance ballad, trying to entice the drunken father to return home from the pub. It is not even that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are in denial about climate change. They know it is real. They just prefer not to hear the call of “Time, gentlemen, please!”


Sustainability
Commitment to sustainability is not in their DNA. Fianna Fáil has a long history of gleeful destruction of the built and natural environments. Remember Bertie Ahern as taoiseach complaining that motorways were being delayed by “snails and swans and people hanging out of trees”? The monuments to the party’s corrupt relationship to developer-led planning lie all about us.


Fine Gael’s record on carbon emissions in government since 2011 is abysmal. Some senior ministers continue to posture as defenders of rural Ireland against the Greens, as if rural Ireland has no stake in preventing environmental disasters. (All those floods that have become so much more destructive stop, mysteriously, at Ashbourne.)

Even in the negotiation of the programme for government, there was the spin that actions to meet Ireland’s existing legal commitments on climate change represent “wins for the Green Party”, defining the survival of civilisation as a niche interest, and people who would quite like to retain a habitable planet for their children and grandchildren as a lobby group – like publicans or developers, only less persuasive.

And there’s a lot to be sceptical about in the programme for government. For example, the 2016 programme for government at least deigned to mention child poverty three times. The proposed 2020 programme manages not to refer to it at all. Simple and basic policies such as the free primary education that almost every developed society in the world takes for granted evaporate away in the empty shadow-language of evasion: “Seek to increase the capitation grant, with a view to reducing the reliance on voluntary contributions made to schools.” The programme comes down hard on natural gas but contains enough to power a city.


And yet: Time, ladies and gentlemen, please. As Andrew Marvell has it in To His Coy Mistress, “Had we but world enough and time,/ This coyness, lady, were no crime./We would sit down, and think which way/ To walk, and pass our long love’s day.” Had we but world enough and time, the Greens would be perfectly right to fight shy of entering government under such a cloud of vagueness. But there is only one world for us humans and we are running out of time to secure our place within it.

Amplified voice
The stakes are too high for righteous indignation. We often hear the spurious argument that Ireland is so small that what we do here doesn’t matter. But most countries are small countries. The whole point of international treaties such as the climate-change accords is that if one party resiles from them, so can all the others. The importance of what happens here, moreover, increased last week when Ireland was elected to a seat on the United Nations Security Council. For the next two years at least, Ireland has an amplified voice in the world, not least on climate change. But only if we do not speak as hypocrites, urging actions on others that we are unwilling to take ourselves.

Equally, the economic collapse caused by the coronavirus creates a moment of opportunity for radical change that may not be repeated. There is a very wide acceptance (including at European Union level) that advanced economies must be regenerated through some version of a Green New Deal. The time to be in government shaping this response is now.

Sceptical Greens are absolutely right to say that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael can’t be trusted to deal with the existential challenge of climate change. That is precisely why we need the Greens in government to make them do it.
 

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