- Oct 13, 2002
- Internment Explorer sp3
the link to the study itself is currently jammed but eh, you get the drift. Human up or we are fucked.
increases in fuel efficiency are attempts to go green.I have seen it argued (poorly, but it's interesting) that the great increases in fuel efficiency in recent decades have done more to curb carbon emissions than attempting to go green ever could
Listen I know.increases in fuel efficiency are attempts to go green.
off into tangentville. AZ here but I've been fascinated by how we've* come to fetishize all the low carbon tech that we had 100 years ago. Carts, horse stuff (ploughs and things), bikes, waterwheels, pedal sewing machines, home butter churns all stuck to the walls of bars or sitting as a feature in a hotel garden.Listen I know.
I was going to say "imagine our iPhones were being charged by a waterwheel and coal/steam engines" but the waterwheel actually sounds kind of utopian in 2019 and there's probably some snakeoil salesman in Silicon Valley selling that to the idiots there, like the raw water stuff.
I correct myself.And by public they mean not even sharing it on twitter.
Ireland has already established a detailed decarbonisation pathway to 2030 in its Climate Action Plan 2019. This will be reflected in Ireland's final national energy and climate plan (NECP).www.gov.ie
/me raises one eyebrowI learnt recently that Easter Island was effectively a fully functioning human utopia until a bunch of Europeans landed, killed half, enslaved the other half and "increased productivity" on the land to the point where everything fell apart. We then spent 300 odd years telling ourselves that the primitives did it to themselves through foolish beliefs.
/me raises one eyebrow
Where did you learn this?
I don’t have the time to do the stuff in work that is similar, let alone on top of home life. Probably true at any time of year but definitely not at Christmas.Just out of curiosity - Like I know a lot of you are parents - Is it even remotely considerable to sit down and write a submission for a public consultation 3 weeks before xmas?
*Kinda think the answer is no - just curious as lord no kids here is thinking about setting aside a day to go at it.
AFAICS he's as guilty of fitting the evidence to the story he wants to tell as anyone else is. Lots of adjectives describing Polynesians like "incredible", "astonishing", "ingenious". Also a lot of weasel words - "it's likely that ...", "this must have been ...", "this may have ...", "some have argued".In this episode, we take a look at one of archaeology’s most enduring puzzles: the mystery of Easter Island. Find out how this unique community grew up in complete isolation, severed from the rest …fallofcivilizationspodcast.com
In fairness to him the only one who has called it a Utopia is me. He's building an argument and he's being cautious and careful, you don't need to insult him calling them weasel words since he never claims to know the exact truth.AFAICS he's as guilty of fitting the evidence to the story he wants to tell as anyone else is. Lots of adjectives describing Polynesians like "incredible", "astonishing", "ingenious". Also a lot of weasel words - "it's likely that ...", "this must have been ...", "this may have ...", "some have argued".
What do you mean what does it matter? It fundamentally changes everything about the story. I'll read that article now in a few mins.Goes to great lengths to demonstrate that deforestation was the fault of rats rather than Moai-making. What does it matter? The ecology of the island changed dramatically after human arrival, that's not disputed. According to this Solving the Easter Island population puzzle the island could have supported 17-thousand-odd people rather than the couple of thousand the Dutch described. If there was no collapse, as he asserts, then why were there so few people?
No one said that except you.There's no dispute that Europeans fucked the place up from the 1800s on, but come on - are we going to pretend that Europeans are the only humans capable of fucking shit up?
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