Children Referendum (1 Viewer)

[rettucs]

yet again I feel ill-informed. But, rather than do the usual for me, which is to go against the government in cases where I don't fully understand whats being voted on (I think the last one I voted with the government on was the good friday agreement one) I'm going to abstain.

I haven't gotten my polling card yet anyway so, unless it comes soon, won't really have a choice.

But it seems a bit farcical the way its being handled. The lack of debate due to the lack of any decent 'No' campaign is really showing up the referendum commission as being totally inadequate in getting the information out there.

And yes, I know I could make more of an effort, but really I'm no different than most Joe Bloggs' out there, and if I don't know what its about I'm pretty sure thats how most people are fixed.

 

[ann post]

i'm asking a friend who actually works these cases. 'alive' magazine are pushing 'no' which nearly would default me to a yes.

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

Campaign for Conscience are against it too so it must be a good amendment.

Scutter, you dont need a polling card to vote

 

[HMD]

John Waters is against it so it can only be a good this

 

[rettucs]

Scutter, you dont need a polling card to vote

are they not being sent out? Or is it that I just need to bring ID if my name is on the list?


also, Dana is against it. Loads of saps are against it, which would also push me towards a 'yes', but on the other hand the government and shinners and everyone are a Yes, which would make me tend towards a No. Which is why I'm abstaining.

 

[magicbastarder]

please tell me you're joking.

 

[HMD]

Barnardos are for it, but thats probably to keep them in a job

How does Jim Corr feel about it?

 

[rettucs]

please tell me you're joking.

who me? about which bit?

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Where are you living scutter?

 

[magicbastarder]

who me? about which bit?

deciding how to vote - or whether to vote - depending on what the government are suggesting.

 

[rettucs]

deciding how to vote - or whether to vote - depending on what the government are suggesting.

The whole point of my post was that I didn't know what the referendum was about, and that I am typical of a lot of others. However I think the onus is on the government (via the supposedly independent referendum commission, who its fair to say are neither independent or neutral) to get information out there. In general, because of the poor job they do I tend to vote No as I feel they are being sly to favour their own agenda. But in this case I won't vote No as it seems that might be the wrong thing to do based on the subject matter. I don't have kids, so its not a topic I am very familiar with and I don't understand the issues. In this case I am happy to leave the voting to those that know better than me.

In summary, in other referendums I vote against the govt to punish them for not being open. In this case, though I still feel they are not being open, I won't vote against them.

Which I think is fair enough.

 

[magicbastarder]

this is the thing though. it's a referendum. it's a vote to change the constitution or not - not a vote to change the government or not.

voting to punish the government by voting 'against them' in a referendum makes no sense.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

The referendum commission has sent out a leaflet explaining the changes involved to every house and are never off the radio pushing it.Their impartiality may be questioned but I don't think they can be faulted for lack of effort.
Sit down for a few minutes later,read an argument from both sides and decide accordingly.

 

[rettucs]

voting to punish the government by voting 'against them' in a referendum makes no sense.

I disagree

 

[rettucs]

both sides

thats the problem. There is no 'both' sides in this instance. Not really.

And I don't trust the referendum commission so discount whats on the leaflet.

 

[rettucs]

I disagree

or let me put it to you a different way;

if this was the last referendum we had, the Fiscal Compact one, would you say the same thing?

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

thats the problem. There is no 'both' sides in this instance. Not really.

And I don't trust the referendum commission so discount whats on the leaflet.

Well would the lack of a serious 'no' side not suggest it probably is a good thing?

 

[rettucs]

Well would the lack of a serious 'no' side not suggest it probably is a good thing?

yes, which is why I won't vote No this time around.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

And progress that to the point that every children's charity thinks its a good thing so just get out and vote yes rather than not bothering.It'll only take a few minutes.
The greatest fear is that everyone will assume that everyone else is voting yes so they needn't bother,the no voters will get out and vote,its important that apathy doesn't let them win it.

 

[nooleen]

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