shower another shower
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It's all cool if you're buying the beer for your kids.
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Why not scrap the children's allowance AND increase taxation of the childless, after all they're not paying the cost of producing future taxpayers to look after them in their old age and pay for their pension etc.
The childless are a massive future burden on society.
Bud + Miller ain't nice.
Centra is baaad anyways - I hate shopping there.
This is true, I wouldn't give anything stronger than Budweiser to my kid. I'm not a bad parent.
The whole swirling morass of commentary today has touched on a load of issues. The person who originally drew attention to the flyer was pointing out the crassness and bad ethics of targetting their advertising in such a manner. He wasn't taking a potshot at the payment itself. However, comments have run the gamut from class warfare "flog the poor" stuff, suggesting voucher/debit card systems to minimise fraud, to lengthy tirades on the pointlessness of getting annoyed about anything on the internet, it's all a storm in a teacup, to stuff like SURE THEY'RE ONLY TRYING TO MAKE A FEW BOB FECKS SAKE MICKEY MONEY LOL. It seems clear that a lot of commentmongers of the "flog the poor" persuasion don't realise that the Child Benefit is available to all parents in the state, and isn't means tested. I discussed the issue last night on the twitter and introducing restrictions on what the payment is used for is widely seen as nanny-stateism, paternalistic etc. Also, the unintended consequence of introducing restrictions on the payment might actually mean more children go without. That is, one way of circumventing for example the US food stamps system is to buy legit goods and flog them for cheaper to another person, then spend the received cash on whatever you want.
The class wars I wage are against the rich. But that doesn't mean that all poor people are saints. Some parents do spend the childrens allowance on booze and cigarettes, Fergus Finlay of Barnardos was on the news pointing out that 9% of children live with parents who have an alcohol problem. If people don't spend the money on booze then they are unlikely to object to vouchers. Fraud could be dealt with by vouchers that only work with a personal SW card.
People with alcohol problems don't give two fucks what price budweiser or fucking miller are.
The class wars I wage are against the rich. But that doesn't mean that all poor people are saints. Some parents do spend the childrens allowance on booze and cigarettes, Fergus Finlay of Barnardos was on the news pointing out that 9% of children live with parents who have an alcohol problem. If people don't spend the money on booze then they are unlikely to object to vouchers. Fraud could be dealt with by vouchers that only work with a personal SW card.
I think that 9% sound ridiculously low to me.
Pretty sure the person who started this whole thing was an avid thumped poster a few years ago.
Fixed.GET HIM A FEW BOTTLES OF BUD OUT OF MONEY YOU COULD BE SPENDING ON YOUR KIDS COUGH SYRUP
GET HIM
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