BREXIT (2 Viewers)

[Lili Marlene]

In the US it's poor, non-white, especially Latin, immigrants. Trump has built, and is building, literal concentration camps.

It's difficult for me to describe how low these Latino immigrants are here. I got the impression that the Jews in Germany were considered to be sneaky, manipulative, malevolent types, eager to outwit the poor Deutsche Leute. The Latin immigrants are not even considered this highly. They are bodies to throw at problems. Ultimately the Third Reich cast Jews as sub-human. That's been the case here since I arrived. Latino immigrants simply are sub-human. There's no need to propagate that line, that's surplus to requirements.

Rounding them up in concentration camps, and letting them rot there is a recemt enough line. That's a development since I've been here.

I suppose my issue is that I see this development as happening under any current US administration, it's not some Trump thing - Clinton would be doing the same but just with different language and some hand-wringing about difficult choices and platitudes about treating people humanely. We're way behind but we have Direct Provision over here, our first steps into our very own for-profit prison system.

 

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Clinton would be doing the same but just with different language and some hand-wringing

No. She would have maintained the status quo. She would have done the hand wringing, and things would not have changed, recent poor dark-skined immigrants would carry on being subhuman. Working class would be continued to be villified, black americans would be continued to harassed and jailed, the police would be stay corrupt and racist while being venerated. The War On Drugs would trudge on, against poor people, for profit prisons, massive wealth would still buy you any political favour you need.

Nauseating US would stay being nauseating.

My point is, the US has become significantly worse under Trump. Instead of quietly working Latinos to death, and congratulating ourselves on the First! Woman! President! and thinking the US is on this (admittedly meandering) path to equality, respect and prosperity, Trump has in a way done the US a favour by exposing the horrific core.

Now it's become a bit tricky to ignore a lot of these things, because they've become much worse.

But no, Hillary would not be doing the same thing. She'd be meeting with an entirely different set of celebrities for starters.





edit - actually fuck me. This is completely the wrong thread. Sorry...

 

[David Kronenbourg]

What was the point of this?

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[shitepipe]

What was the point of this?

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Basically if the vote goes through tomorrow (which would potentially mean Johnson would have to request a delay from EU)- he will call an election...

 

[David Kronenbourg]

Basically if the vote goes through tomorrow (which would potentially mean Johnson would have to request a delay from EU)- he will call an election...

Oh I know but he looked ill prepared, rushed, distracted. Why bother doing it at all?

 

[shitepipe]

Oh I know but he looked ill prepared, rushed, distracted. Why bother doing it at all?

So he can say I was left with no choice- that Corbyn fella made me do it. The traitor!

 

[Unicron]

When the Tories talk about "crime," and May in particular used to bang on about knife crime, that's a dog-whistle yes?

 

[magicbastarder]

i am somewhat interested by the tory party strategy of announcing 'we don't regard the vote of the house of commons as something we have to uphold anymore' and then saying 'let's have an election to elect the house of commons again, as if we think that's important anymore'.

 

[David Kronenbourg]

Tories 'Would Lose Six Seats' In Snap Election - New Poll Analysis

Fresh study of 10,000 voters shows SNP and Lib Dems would make gains. Dominic Grieve says Tories risk showing party has ‘no place for moderates’.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[ann post]

It'd be some craic if through being completely out of touch it ended up that Corbyn was taoiseach of england in a week or two leaving this whole tory circus to the past.

 

[hydromancer]

Looks like Labour might hold back on an election now after Tony Blair coming out and doing an Admiral Ackbar yesterday

 

[Lili Marlene]

No. She would have maintained the status quo. She would have done the hand wringing, and things would not have changed, recent poor dark-skined immigrants would carry on being subhuman. Working class would be continued to be villified, black americans would be continued to harassed and jailed, the police would be stay corrupt and racist while being venerated. The War On Drugs would trudge on, against poor people, for profit prisons, massive wealth would still buy you any political favour you need.

Nauseating US would stay being nauseating.

My point is, the US has become significantly worse under Trump. Instead of quietly working Latinos to death, and congratulating ourselves on the First! Woman! President! and thinking the US is on this (admittedly meandering) path to equality, respect and prosperity, Trump has in a way done the US a favour by exposing the horrific core.

Now it's become a bit tricky to ignore a lot of these things, because they've become much worse.

But no, Hillary would not be doing the same thing. She'd be meeting with an entirely different set of celebrities for starters.





edit - actually fuck me. This is completely the wrong thread. Sorry...

It seems we are in agreement about everything bar how much we can compare the US administration to Nazis. Grand so. Good chat.

 

[Lili Marlene]

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gwan Simon

 

[Unicron]

Johnson's majority is gone

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[David Kronenbourg]

LOL

 

[Lili Marlene]

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it never doesn't seem like the worst place on earth

 

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it never doesn't seem like the worst place on earth

Did Johnson reply "hear hear" when he saw the defection? As in a "glad to see the back of you, ye prick"?

 

[Lili Marlene]

I'd say it's just involuntary tick they all develop to make it seem like they know what's going on.

 

[hydromancer]

Did Johnson reply "hear hear" when he saw the defection? As in a "glad to see the back of you, ye prick"?

That was someone else and I presume just one of the usual moans back benchers make

 

[Unicron]

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