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Here are people playing soccer live online.

I've been suggesting elite gamers should play out the soccer fixtures for the year. I've no idea if these people are elite, but they are live and it is technically sport.
 

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RE above: not worst idea but won't be considered....
i cannot see there being major sports events for rest of the year as things stand....

i'm a sucker for watching retro sport on you tube so i'm going to post some
classic faves and new discoveries here.

BRAZIL 7-0 IRELAND 0 (27 May 1982)
news reports from the time and the goooools, in much better quality.
plus Eoin Hand interview in Portuguese.

IRELAND :
J McDonagh (Bolton)
E Deacy (Villa)
M Martin (Newcastle)
J Anderson (Preston),
M Walsh (Everton)
S O'Driscoll (Fulham)
L Brady (Juve)
T Grealish (Brighton)
G Daly (Coventry)
B O'Callaghan (Stoke) - sub G Ryan (Brighton)
K O'Callaghan (Ipswich)

BRAZIL:
Paulo Sergio (sub Waldir Peres)
Leandro
Oscar
Toninho Cerezo (sub Paulo Isidoro)
Junior
Edinho (sub Luizinho)
Dirceu (sub Eder)
Falcao
Socrates
Serginho (sub Careca)
Zico

think team line ups are correct ? (not sure of numbers...) LINK:
Brasil - IRLANDA 27/05/1982 - Seleção - Sambafoot.com, tudo sobre o futebol brasileiro

the scary thing is this is still probably a better Irish team than today....
even with NO O'Leary, Whelan, Lawrenson, Moran, Stapleton, Hughton etc.
(apparently clubs didn't release them)
i don't think Ireland ever went on a South American tour after this ?

should have been anything up to 15-0 but was only 1-0 at half time.

Jim McDonagh is called 'Mc-Don-agh-hay' by commentator.
Jim made a few great saves but most of the goooools come from
corners where he and the Irish lads were all over the place.
(Bonner won only 5 caps pre-1985)

who's the Irish player who misses an open goal with a header ?
never heard of Sean O'Driscoll who won all three of his caps on that tour.
 
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Ha - seems i messed up line up for Brazil above. those listed as subs started (sorry).
Careca who started match was left out of Espana '82 WC squad.
Serginho who got two against Ireland was a starter up front at the 1982 WC.
obviously not taking Antonio Careca was a huge mistake.

and now... my favourite World Cup qualifier match:
France v Bulgaria 17 November 1993.

France looked set to qualify with two matches to go, but a farcical 2-3
home defeat to Israel meant Sweden took the top spot in their group
and France still needed to avoid defeat in Paris to join them at USA '94.
so as Northern Ireland and the Republic were slugging it out at
Windsor Park, this was happening in Paris...

highlights with Bulgarian commentary (14 minutes total):
remarkable footage shot in away section by Bulgarian fans:
entire match in French:
in Bulgarian:
best parts @ 37:55-38:07, @ 43:20 and the 90th minute @ 1:32:20-1:33:20

@ 37:55 - how was that not a free kick ? the French guy should have been booked.

Luboslav Penev (whose uncle Dimitar was the manager) put Kostadinov
through on goal for the winner but in early 1994 the Valencia striker
was diagnosed with testicular cancer and never got to play in USA '94.
Penev, Stoichkov and Kostadinov all played in the same CSKA Sofia
team in the late 1980's.

Lubo made a full recovery and and played in Euro 96 and France 98
in 1995-96 he won the double with Atletico Madrid and was their top scorer.

prior to 1994 Bulgaria had never won a match at five previous World Cups

"We thought- here we go again," a Bulgarian told me after they lost their
opening match in 1994 Nigeria.
but a 4-0 win in a derby with Greece set them up for a run of thrilling wins
over Argentina, Mexico and Germany, before falling to Italy.
in the third place match they lost to none other than their qualifying group
winners Sweden.
 
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Ha - seems i messed up line up for Brazil above. those listed as subs started (sorry).
Careca who started match was left out of Espana '82 WC squad.
Serginho who got two against Ireland was a starter up front at the 1982 WC.
obviously not taking Antonio Careca was a huge mistake.

and now... my favourite World Cup qualifier match:
France v Bulgaria 17 November 1993.

France looked set to qualify with two matches to go, but a farcical 2-3
home defeat to Israel meant Sweden took the top spot in their group
and France still needed to avoid defeat in Paris to join them at USA '94.
so as Northern Ireland and the Republic were slugging it out at
Windsor Park, this was happening in Paris...
That was one of the most dramatic nights ever for international qualifiers, besides that hilarious France finale and Ireland's group on a knife edge you also had Wales just missing out at home to Romania after a missed peno that might have got them through,, England conceeding to San Marino after 8 seconds, and Italy scoring 7 minutes from time to put themselves through instead of Portugal.
 

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That Bulgaria 1994 side is one of my favourite teams ever, easy. Team of fuckin legends, everybody wanted to be Letchkov. I wanted to be Ivanov, fuckin hero.
Stoichkov scored the actual best goal of the 1994 World Cup, only for it to be disallowed for offside – but it wasn't, the decision was bad and it should have been allowed. Saeed Al-Owairan got the best goal honour instead for his comedy legend goal against Belgium, was a fuckin brilliant goal alright but the defence should have been shot.
 

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poor Saeed Al-Owairan - scored one of the best WC goals ever nearly everyone forgets his name.

just read this -
I didn't know Saeed was jailed only a couple of years later for drinking
alcohol, socialising with women during Ramadan and how Saudi players
weren't allowed play for clubs abroad under various draconian Saudi laws:

Saeed Al-Owairan - Wikipedia
.
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so even being a national hero doesn't give you much rights in Saudi.
the hypocrisy of the Saud family and the ruling elite - no problems for
them if they are alcoholics.
 

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i'm watching The Football Show 9 am - 11 am on Sky Sports News week days.

great guests e.g. last Thursday - Given, Sven S.G. and Kenny Dalglish.

this morning first guest was Harry Kedknapp but before that they mentioned an
interview in The Guardian today with Lee Hendrie.
i knew he had attempted suicide twice about a decade ago after going bankrupt
(bad property investments, post 2008) but today he said he'd tried to end his life
5 or 6 times....

Lee Hendrie: 'My wife went through an awful lot. She's seen me on life-support machines'

Harry was promoting a TV show on ITV over the next few nights where he Hendrie,
VInnie Jones and Paul Merson go on a road trip around Europe.
Harry spoke candidly about how miserable he would be on the weekends that he lost.

Kris Boyd was up next, his younger brother took his life a few years ago and he set
up a support charity. he advocated former players mentoring players with mental
health problems.

next Carragher did an interview with Craig Bellamy (now Anderlecht under 21 coach)
Bellamy was worried about several of his players coping with lockdown.

what happened next was remarkable - Craig spoke of the stress he experienced leaving
home as 15 year old through to being diagnosed with Bi Polar disorder in recent years
(for which he's on medication).
Craig was proud he gotten the best out of himself during his career but he had pushed
himself so hard it wasn't that enjoyable at the time.
knowing all this to have the career he had in such a ruthless sport is amazing.

actually this is a longer unedited version:


finally Paul Merson said after suddenly having an epiphany said he hadn't drank for
16-17 months. he's always brilliant at speaking about addictions and mental health.

as a young guy Merse thought : "I didn't really think anything was wrong with me....
this is just the way it is... at Arsenal when i was going through it really badly no one was
talking about mental health. no one even knew what it were. I never heard it in my life
and i just thought - 'oh it's just me.' "

straight afterwards i saw online that Daniela Lozaro a 20 year old footballer playing in the
Mexican league had taken her life yesterday.
 
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17 April 1971: 'Leeds will go mad. They have every right to' (referee Ray Tinkler's version of events. Guardian link).

love the guy in the suit being dragged off - a Leeds legend.
Astle may have also have been offside but you can't tell from the pictures.
Full highlights (9:22)
after losing this match by a goal Leeds lost the title by a point to Arsenal.
in a 42 match, 2 points for a win format i think this was the most points (64)
ever earned by runners up. 68 points is the record (Liverpool 78-79).


when Giles became player manager of WBA in 1975 the lads there were taking
the piss out of him over this match.
in West Brom's last match in 1975-76 they needed a win at Oldham to secure
promotion.
winning 1-0 through a Tony Brown goal, in injury time Giles reminded Tinkler he
remembered him from Leeds when querying why so much injury time was being
played - Tinkler added more.
 

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speaking of Tony Brown... he was perhaps the most under appreciated English player in
post war football. he scored 279 goals for West Brom but only won one cap in 1971
(he was top scorer (29 goals) in the first division in 1970-71).
in four words his problem was - Bobby Charlton, Colin Bell.
Giles compared Brown to Scholes.

once watched a video of Batistuta being presented with a lifetime achievement award
in Italy. the presenter asked the crowd if Batigol was Fiorentina's greatest player
Batistuta pointed a guy in the front row and said "No, it's Giancarlo".

the music on this is dire (just turn it down) but the passes, dribbles, free kicks and
shots from outside the box are sublime.
Giancarlo Antognoni:

in 1987 Antognoni had a decision to make :
after 15 years in Florence his best days were long gone after a series of injuries.
Fiorentina offered him a one year contract worth about £75,000 but then
Lausanne offered a two year deal worth... £450,000 !
he took the money.
after giving Fiorentina his best what happened next was ugly.
a farewell press conference was attended by 200 journalists. many of whom
thought they had a right to crucify Mr Loyal for breaking ranks.

of course now people only remember the good times - exactly same with Batistuta
who finally also left under a cloud.

i don't what was going on in Suisse in the late 80's but there was plenty
of money there.
KH Rumminegge joined Servette Geneva at the same time (87).
 

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RE above: not worst idea but won't be considered....
i cannot see there being major sports events for rest of the year as things stand....

i'm a sucker for watching retro sport on you tube so i'm going to post some
classic faves and new discoveries here.

BRAZIL 7-0 IRELAND 0 (27 May 1982)
news reports from the time and the goooools, in much better quality.
plus Eoin Hand interview in Portuguese.

IRELAND :
J McDonagh (Bolton)
E Deacy (Villa)
M Martin (Newcastle)
J Anderson (Preston),
M Walsh (Everton)
S O'Driscoll (Fulham)
L Brady (Juve)
T Grealish (Brighton)
G Daly (Coventry)
B O'Callaghan (Stoke) - sub G Ryan (Brighton)
K O'Callaghan (Ipswich)

BRAZIL:
Paulo Sergio (sub Waldir Peres)
Leandro
Oscar
Toninho Cerezo (sub Paulo Isidoro)
Junior
Edinho (sub Luizinho)
Dirceu (sub Eder)
Falcao
Socrates
Serginho (sub Careca)
Zico

think team line ups are correct ? (not sure of numbers...) LINK:
Brasil - IRLANDA 27/05/1982 - Seleção - Sambafoot.com, tudo sobre o futebol brasileiro

the scary thing is this is still probably a better Irish team than today....
even with NO O'Leary, Whelan, Lawrenson, Moran, Stapleton, Hughton etc.
(apparently clubs didn't release them)
i don't think Ireland ever went on a South American tour after this ?

should have been anything up to 15-0 but was only 1-0 at half time.

Jim McDonagh is called 'Mc-Don-agh-hay' by commentator.
Jim made a few great saves but most of the goooools come from
corners where he and the Irish lads were all over the place.
(Bonner won only 5 caps pre-1985)

who's the Irish player who misses an open goal with a header ?
never heard of Sean O'Driscoll who won all three of his caps on that tour.
Oh wow, I never knew that footage of this existed. There's a great radio doc, below, about this tour under Eoin Hand, An absolute shambles, FAI corruption of the highest order, and Brady somehow agreed to go, with only really two other internationals in Grealish and Daly. And they faced one of Brazil's greatest ever squads, all fighting for a team place in WC 82 Spain. Poor Brady!

Guns, goals, cigarettes and samba - Documentary On One
 

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awesome stuff Benny ! Cheers. i never heard this before.

i didn't know much about this tour, i just wanted to see how Ireland lost 7-0, albeit
to a stunning Brazil team.
the only thing i knew was the squad was very weak and players weren't released
and Ireland never went back South America.

apparently this was the stadium's inagural match with 80,000 attending.
Estádio Parque do Sabiá - Wikipedia

you can see the Brazilian lads partying on the plane on the way back to Rio
in one of the clips posted above and the poor Irish team where on the plane too !

also some great tunes from the time on the doc.
inc. maybe three i didn't recognize.

especially didn't expect to hear -
Virgin Prunes - 'Ulakanakulot' and the Associates hit - 'Party Fears Too' closes it out.


and even.... 'Into The Garden' by ARTERY !
'Afterwards' the flipside of the single is actually better IMO.
 

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