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nuke terrorist · May 1, 2023

40 years ago today:
1 May 1983. Final day of the La Liga 1982-83 season.

Going into the final round of La Liga matches Real Madrid were top by one point from Athletic Bilbao who had not been Champions since 1956.
Bilbao were away to Las Palmas and Real Madrid travelled to Valencia who were in dire straits in 2nd last place.
Bilbao needed to win and hope Valencia beat Real.
Managed by former Bilbao player and manager Koldo Aguirre, Valencia had looked doomed but gave themselves a slight chance on the final day - they needed beat Real Madrid and hope all their direct rivals lost inc. Las Palmas plus Celta and Santander, to stay up on goal difference.

This was the end of Las Palmas' golden era - a 19 year stay in La Liga - yet when Bilbao do a lap of honour the stadium is still full.
1982-83 didn't get any better for Real Madrid - they were also runners up in the Copa del Rey, lost the ECWC final to Fergie's Aberdeen and were runners up in the short lived League Cup.

Spotlight Season: The Basque Conquest of Spain – 1982/83 | El Centrocampista

Background Football in Spain was in need of a boost. The country had staged the twelfth World Cup Finals during the summer of 1982 and despite a vast investment on infrastructure and publicity, the tournament had failed to capture the Spanish public’s imagination. The sombre mood was not helped...

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Primera División de España 1982-83 - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

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nuke terrorist · May 4, 2023

Awesome scenes in Napoli and Udine where SSC Napoli clenched the title after an OSIMHEN equaliser.
San Diego would have loved this.

meanwhile back in Napoli live:

nuke terrorist · May 5, 2023

Brighton have some squad and nearly all of them have never played better. A+++ Super call by the VAR on the handball. One of the best penalties you'll ever see. How did he pivot around like that?

Alexis Mac Allister did a very honest typically humble interview afterwards.
EDIT:
The 18 y.o. Paraguayan forward Enciso looks like a terrific player in the making.
(edit - thought he was Argentine)

Richie · May 5, 2023

nuke terrorist said:
Brighton have some squad and nearly all of them have never played better. A+++ Super call by the VAR on the handball. One of the best penalties you'll ever see. How did he pivot around like that?

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Alexis Mac Allister did a very honest typically humble interview afterwards.
EDIT:
The 18 y.o. Paraguayan forward Enciso looks like a terrific player in the making.
(edit - thought he was Argentine)

They'd be in with a chance of a 4th place finish if not for some highly dubious refereeing decisions in various games. How they're managing to level the huge Premier League resource gap is pretty incredible.. Given that they'll surely be stripped of some of their best players / manager every transfer window I'm curious to see if they can make it last more than a couple of seasons, current travails of the likes if Southampton & Swansea shows how hard it is to sustain success as a smaller team that has to sell when they get a big offer.

nuke terrorist · May 5, 2023

Southampton are goners but were promoted in 2012 - but if they had kept all their best players they would have very likely won the PL. 11 years was an amazing innings for a big time selling club but your luck runs out eventually.

Brighton's owner Tony Bloom has a secret algorithm (no shit!) that is used to make short lists of young players to scout.
their biggest problem will be keeping their scouting system intact as this has attracted a massive amount of attention and apparently some scouts have left for envious bigger clubs.

Evan Ferguson signing a new deal is a non brainer. he's in great place to develop much further in the next couple of years. Like Mac Allister and a lot of his team mates Ferguson seems like a manager's dream - almost egoless, a really nice lad and model pro.

seanc · May 5, 2023

nuke terrorist said:
Brighton have some squad and nearly all of them have never played better. A+++ Super call by the VAR on the handball. One of the best penalties you'll ever see. How did he pivot around like that?

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Alexis Mac Allister did a very honest typically humble interview afterwards.
EDIT:
The 18 y.o. Paraguayan forward Enciso looks like a terrific player in the making.
(edit - thought he was Argentine)

Im in Eastern Sicily right now, so quite far away from Naples, but there was still people setting of fireworks and stuff last night. I knew there was a north south divide in the country but I didn't think the south was unified. My mate said maybe it's a bit like if Sam crossed the Shannon ,we'd all celebrate.

nuke terrorist · May 5, 2023

seanc said:
Im in Eastern Sicily right now, so quite far away from Naples, but there was still people setting of fireworks and stuff last night. I knew there was a north south divide in the country but I didn't think the south was unified. My mate said maybe it's a bit like if Sam crossed the Shannon ,we'd all celebrate.

5 million people live in Sicily and I don't know any music from there and very few touring bands seem to go south of Rome. so if you are that neglected by outside world and even within your own country, it makes sense.
Napoli brilliantly smashed a northern hegemony in Serie A and maybe football fans everywhere are just excited about it.

feel sorry for the likes of Mertens, Koulibaly and Hamsik that this came too late for them after they did so much for Napoli.
After what the club went through from the late 90's to 2000's it's one hell of a comeback.

nuke terrorist · May 7, 2023

Arsenio Iglesias (1930 - 5 May 2023)
Iglesias was nearing the end of his coaching career when masterminded the rise of Deportivo La Coruna.
He led Depor to promotion to La Liga for the first time in decades in 1991. After barely staying up in 1991-92 the club took off and became regular Liga contenders.
In 1994 a missed penalty in the final minutes of the season v Valencia cost Depor the title.
Iglesias decided to retire in 1995 after winning the Copa Del Rey but the Super Depor era of success continued for a decade.
Finally Iglesias managed Real Madrid briefly in 1995-96.

Arsenio Iglesias - Wikipedia

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nuke terrorist · May 11, 2023

''I'M FOREVER BLOWING BUBBLES''

nuke terrorist · May 11, 2023

40 years ago today - Fergie's biggest achievement IMO.

11 May 1983 ECWC Final in Gothenburg
ABERDEEN 2-1 REAL MADRID aet

unfortunately I can't find any other short highlights clip. Aberdeen should have won easily except for a give away penalty.

1983 European Cup Winners' Cup final - Wikipedia

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post match celebrations w/ Dickie Davies and Aberdeen lad Denis Law in studio.

From documentary on Fergie:

nuke terrorist · May 12, 2023

Antonio Carbajal (7 June 1929 - 9 May 2023)
Mexican goalkeeper who played in five World Cups 1950-66 and the final surviving player from the 1950 World Cup.
Carbajal won 48 caps and two league titles with Leon and had a long career as a manager.

He was the first player to have played in five World Cups and only one until Lothar Matthaus in 1998.
Carbajal played one match in Brazil 1950, one in Suisse 1954 and all three matches in 1958, '62 and '66.

Strangely apart from Lothar, Messi and Ronaldo,all the other players who have been at in five World Cups are Mexican: Rafa Marquez, fellow goalkeeper Guillermo Ochoa and Andres Guardado

First footballer to play at five World Cups dies aged 93

Mexican football legend Antonio Carbajal, who became the first footballer to play at five World Cups in 1966, dies at the age of 93.

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nuke terrorist · May 17, 2023

Ferran Olivella (1936 - 14 May 2023)
Barcelona (1956-69) defender who won two Liga titles, three Copas and three Fairs Cups (UEFA Cup).
He captained Spain to victory in the 1964 Euros on home soil and was in the 1966 World Cup squad winning 18 caps.

Former Barcelona Legend and Spain Captain Ferran Olivella Passes Away - Football News & Music site

Former Barcelona defender and ex-Spain captain Ferran Olivella has sadly

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Ferran Olivella - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

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Per Rontved (1949 - 16 May 2023)
Danish national team captain who won 75 caps (11 goals) from 1970-82, just missing the Danes first qualification successes. Rontved spent his best days at Werder Bremen.
He suffered a stoke in 1984 but recovered. Per passed away from cancer.

Per Røntved - Wikipedia

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nuke terrorist · May 17, 2023

FEYENOORD clinch the 2022-23 Eredivisie and mostly the celebrations

old news by now but Arsenal were completely finished off by Brighton in one of the best away performances of the season. Martin Tyler commentary sounds restrained if anything.

somehow in a hissy self parody tantrum Martin Keown thinks it was Gary Neville and Martin Tyler's fault and the PL for scheduling the Man City match earlier on Sunday!
Keown even comes up with a nonsense reason why at least 20,000 plus left the match before the end.

what a paranoid bad loser the old thug Keown is. is he trying to be a comedian here?
"So that's my fault, you can ridicule me now" - don't worry lunkhead Keown, Jim White, Simon Jordan and the callers do just that.

Unicron · May 23, 2023

The Vinicius Jr. getting racially abused whenever he plays an away match stuff.

Jesus Christ, coming to a head now. Would be totally understandable if he left the country over it

flashback · May 23, 2023

Unicron said:
The Vinicius Jr. getting racially abused whenever he plays an away match stuff.

Jesus Christ, coming to a head now. Would be totally understandable if he left the country over it

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The Spanish League, and Spain in general, has a reputation for racism.
The fact that they don't address this, eg sanctioning Real, demonstrates that they aren't bothered very much by this reputation.

There's been plenty of precedent where supporters behave like cunts results in clubs being sanctioned. It's an easy fix, if you give a fuck. La Liga clearly just don't give a fuck.

Unicron · May 23, 2023

flashback said:
The Spanish League, and Spain in general, has a reputation for racism.
The fact that they don't address this, eg sanctioning Real, demonstrates that they aren't bothered very much by this reputation.

The arguments they make justifying it are very weak:

1. He brings it on himself by being so provocative*, the James McLean/Neil Lennon defence.

2. It's not "real" racism it's only opposition supporters trying to get under a player's skin and put them off.

* Provocative in this case seems to be a combination of a) calling it out when people do this stuff to him, b) having the temerity to be young, gifted and black.

flashback · May 23, 2023

Unicron said:
The arguments they make justifying it are very weak:

1. He brings it on himself by being so provocative*, the James McLean/Neil Lennon defence.

2. It's not "real" racism it's only opposition supporters trying to get under a player's skin and put them off.

* Provocative in this case seems to be a combination of a) calling it out when people do this stuff to him, b) having the temerity to be young, gifted and black.

It's his fault, for being so black. Anyway, it's just a joke bro.

Yeah, they sound like a bunch of racists. They've a reputation for being a bunch of racists, and they're actively enabling a bunch of racists.

Does lead you to think that they might be a bunch of racists.

nuke terrorist · May 23, 2023

the abuse of Vinicius Jr. was going on for a long time and got mentioned here before BUT nothing was done about it and he suffered an appalling time at Valencia that was a major front page news across the world.
four Atletico fans who are allegedly the pricks who hung the effigy of Vini Jr. off the motorway bridge were arrested today.
this has to be a George Floyd moment for Spain. the large amount of people involved in the abuse clips video Unicron / flashback posted weren't just a few fools. they felt very secure doing this.

at a LOI match this month, a player was just about to sent off for kicking a player in an off the ball incident. a guy (college student age) behind me shouted ''lesbian'' at highly respected lineswoman Michelle O'Neill. his friend told him to shut up.
he called the (white) guy who got sent off ''kn_____r'' and ''inbred'' a few times and went on like this for 15-20 plus minutes he was behind me.
he was scary, really loud and aggressive and I dared not turn around to look at him

that guy was a rarity but I simply wasn't going to confront him on my own.
really shocking that a young lad would shout homophobic stuff but maybe I am very naive.

ann post · May 23, 2023

The Homophobia is the naivety.

nuke terrorist · May 27, 2023

Rovers had 3 players sent off at Turners Cross last night. They to play about half an hour with 8 men

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