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Thats great! There's an entire novel in there.

I'd say every raggedy indie band can be ultimately traced back to either I'm Waiting for the Man or You Really Got Me.

It took this thread to actually get me listening to them and realize that everyone was right about them. I'm still not a massive fan or anything but I at least get it, which is probably the most you can ask for from pop music at this advanced age.

What? I know you were 13 but I can't think of anything more 60s sounding than that song. Like, 1999 by Prince is a class song that holds up great in 2021 but it absolutely reeks of 1982, nothing contemporary sounding about it.

Absolutely. Like Burgerbarbaby's post above says. Eh... TLDR: he doesn't actually. HOWEVER: I believe we discussed in this thread several years ago that Moe Tucker was a big Bo Diddley fan so ALL OF THEIR DRUMS, and then his general percussive, tremelo-y guitar style was a massive influence on...

I honestly don't know what my position on this kind of thing is. Is it better that everyone just accepts that there is no originality in this world so we can just get on with things, or is it too much fun to make claims to originality just to wind others up?? I can't decide.

They invented everything??? If we're being ridiculous i'm going to go out here and stake the claim that they were just ripping of Bo Diddley and Joe Meek while James Brown was busy inventing funk. They only got the credit for it because they were in New York and wearing sunglasses.

Fascinating insight into what America does to people's minds in this tea-party era interview with her https://web.archive.org/web/20101022024449/http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/10/moe_tucker_interview_2010_politics_tea_party_velvet_underground_video.php not holding it against her...

@Cornu Ammonis tell me what to think about this

I should probably listen to White Light White Heat so. I've dipped in and out of John Cale's discography over the years, not being Lou Reed really helped his basic case for me. It's like 800 thousand albums long though so I'll probably never properly get into him.

Just playing Paris 1919 here and the girlfriend is all "who is this guy and why the fuck is this album set all over the world?"

Been listening to the stuff I like off this a lot this week, that is to say Run, Run, Run, All Tomorrow's Parties and The Black Angel Death Song. With this in mind what album should I listen to next by them? I've never listened to any of their other albums.

I almost voted for their debut! Might go back and add it

So call a moderator, square

Ah, I think know what you mean. The current pitchfork writing is mainly like that imho. Their writers mainly seem to be writing in a really anonymous style where you can't tell one from the other. It irks me.

Well ok, music writing like all writing can be done in pretty much any way possible as long as it works. Like all writing you don't always have to like it all. I was just being a bit over the top because egg had set it up that writing personally was somehow in opposition to "music journalism".

that is what music journalism is supposed to talk about tbh

WTF really?? This is all anyone ever fucking does. What rock have you been living under? Also, Run, Run, Run is great. One of the best songs on this thing!

oh man, that's the shit I live for!

Fair point! I guess my problem with the VU is that it’s all so fucking white. There was no shortage of songs that were very directly about drugs or weird sex but the difference was that they were usually done with a sense of humour and, well, sung by black people. It took some studied, white...