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  1. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    My credentials are pretty good. I remember the owl wans scrubbing their stoops, and the rag and bone man, and climbing over glinting drifts of syringes in the derelict buildings and stealing bread from outside the bakery and the shoplifting and wearing the same trews for three years and mates...
  2. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Yeah, I might just make it though.
  3. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Fucking racist!
  4. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Right, so now poor people is your family. I get it now.
  5. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    I'm more interested in your definition of "poor" than Anthony's definition of "scumbags". Perhaps he's just met the wrong poor people. I know Anthony about as well as I know you.
  6. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    You didn't ask for clarification. You made your mind up that he meant "poor people". And if you're talking about poor people, you're talking about my relatives, right back to that cold, stony drumlin they crawled off back in the middle ages.
  7. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Again, the poverty line isn't exclusive to flats, or tracksuits. Tracksuits aren't exclusive to flats either. If he's talking about scumbags, it's in a personal way. the way that there was always some lads looking for a scrap or on the rob or generally being a nuisance. This happens...
  8. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    I think we know who did that.
  9. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    By all means, lets apply that parochialism to all of society, and all of society's poor people.
  10. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    And you're saying that these people all dress alike? They have one look? If you're in the shop and you come out and your bike has been nicked, it's been nicked by a scumbag. If you're walking down the road with the kids and they run through some dog shit that some lazy cunt didn't pick up...
  11. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Sher, the Poshos are the ones paying all the taxes, so the Scumbags are robbing it. Am I right? Am I right?
  12. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    But what makes you make the leap that people who dress a certain way are poor? They dress that way because the mortgage is killing them, taxes have gone up, they were self employed and business went under and they can't get the dole? They have 3 kids on a single income? They've been sick for a...
  13. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Of course it's loaded. It suggests that the person you're referring too has no regard for other people, or society at large. Human avariciousness transcends class. Or have I missed something?
  14. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    And, let me clarify, the "perceived intolerance" was that Anthony was referring to "poor people" when he used the term scumbags. Not that there isn't intolerance, sure there is, but I doubt Anthony was thinking "poor people are scum" and to even infer that is kinda thick, innit? Also, my...
  15. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    I said the first bit, Corm said the second bit. We're actually different people. I live in D4 and he's a bit of a scumbag, to be honest. I think he might be a terrorist.
  16. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    What's working class then? How does one become working class? Surely the term is anachronistic, at the very best. What's middle class? What's fucking class in this society? What are your definitions. If you ask me we're all in the middle. There's some rich cunts, some poor cunts and the rest...
  17. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    I've never once come across the word "scumbag" in the meeja. But I think your generalisation of leafy suburbs is as disingenuous as tarring and entire strata of society with the scumbag brush. You can't decry a perceived intolerance with an actual one.
  18. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Being poor isn't solely in the domain of the "working class", which, frankly, is a term far more loaded than scumbag. Being poor is fucking everyone. You didn't have to grow up in a box made of shit in <insert suitably disadvantaged area here> in the 1980s to experience poverty. We are all...
  19. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Abosfuckinglutely they are. But you're telling me people who "look certain way or are from a particular part of town" are poor? Man, that's patronising and facile and demeans your entire argument.
  20. Hector Grey

    In defence of hipsters

    Yeah, no bother. Here to help.
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