The Russian invasion of Ukraine (5 Viewers)

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One year on: how will the Ukraine war end?

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Meanwhile, as the war of articles rages on, is the take home point from this one in the NYTimes not absolutely genocidal?

Opinion | The Problem With Russia Is Russia

We simply must destroy Russia top to bottom, for the greater good... somehow... I'm sure it won't involve massacring the entire population
 
It's the Spectator I know but tell me (no, really, do) where this piece is wrong

One year on: how will the Ukraine war end?

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Meanwhile, as the war of articles rages on, is the take home point from this one in the NYTimes not absolutely genocidal?

Opinion | The Problem With Russia Is Russia

We simply must destroy Russia top to bottom, for the greater good... somehow... I'm sure it won't involve massacring the entire population

first one is a reasonable summary. whatever about the donbass, the crimea has had a fairly distinct history, ethnic mix etc.

The ukrainian's would have negotiated at the start, but russians weren't particularly interested as they thought they'd win. The Ukrainians were better organised, motivated, and progressively better armed, and now in a position where as long as they can continue to get support they feel they can not only hold out, but potentially win.

Both sides are now stuck on maximalist goals...short of a massive set back on either side that won't change I think.
 
Meanwhile, as the war of articles rages on, is the take home point from this one in the NYTimes not absolutely genocidal?

Opinion | The Problem With Russia Is Russia

We simply must destroy Russia top to bottom, for the greater good... somehow... I'm sure it won't involve massacring the entire population
C'mon, man. She's a Ukrainian scholar talking about the degradation of her people and peoples like hers.

That Russia is utterly fucked and a genocidal threat to its neighbours is on full display on our TVs every single day.
Dunno where anyone could get a call to arms to wipe out the population of Russia from that piece, or how one's sympathy wouldn't be with her people.

She's criticising a regime and a mentality from her lived experience as a subject of that regime.

There is only one country attempting to massacre an entire population right now. This is something actually happening; not an inference or an imagined future.
 
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Couldn't find much in there that I disagreed with either. (I've burned my monthly limit on the NYT)

As a general point of principal, be it the north or palestine or catalonia or scotland or whereever I'd be fairly strong on the right of people to have self determination so I'm not hugely invested in the idea of Ukraine's territorial integrity WRT pre invasion borders, or even pre 2014 borders but given the displacement in the regions and the potential desire to return home that people might have it's really hard to figure out what a fair and valid plebiscite on who wants to be governed from where in those areas looks like.
 
Couldn't find much in there that I disagreed with either. (I've burned my monthly limit on the NYT)

As a general point of principal, be it the north or palestine or catalonia or scotland or whereever I'd be fairly strong on the right of people to have self determination so I'm not hugely invested in the idea of Ukraine's territorial integrity WRT pre invasion borders, or even pre 2014 borders but given the displacement in the regions and the potential desire to return home that people might have it's really hard to figure out what a fair and valid plebiscite on who wants to be governed from where in those areas looks like.
Dunno how they do it

There's what's right and what's achievable, and it's hard to know what either of those are right now - as far as the civilians
With the added layer of you give RUssia too much, you're possibly dealing with this again in a few years
fucking ponderous, man
 
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