Cancelled (8 Viewers)

[dudley]

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[JohnnyRaz]

What was the first cancelling of the modern era?

Great Purge - Wikipedia

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those captialist running dogs got owned

 

[chris d]

Kramer?

 

[David Kronenbourg]

Great Purge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

those captialist running dogs got owned

i meant the modern celebrity/social media era but sure

 

[ann post]

I think Enid Blyton, who's last works were in the mid sixties is getting cancelled today

 

[rettucs]

I think Enid Blyton, who's last works were in the mid sixties is getting cancelled today

I thought he was cancelled a long time ago. Children's author who hates children.

 

[egg_]

Haha this reminds me of big arguments we had when I was maybe in 2nd class about whether Enid Blyton was a man or a woman. She was actually a woman

She wrote some great books, in fairness to her.

 

[rettucs]

Haha this reminds me of big arguments we had when I was maybe in 2nd class about whether Enid Blyton was a man or a woman. She was actually a woman

She wrote some great books, in fairness to her.

ah shite, I'm mixing them up with Roald Dahl. He was supposed to be a cantankerous pox

 

[Unicron]

ah shite, I'm mixing them up with Roald Dahl. He was supposed to be a cantankerous pox

No he was a shit to his family, and also antisemetic I think.

You are correct, Blighton was cancelled some time ago. Can't be having gollywogs in Noddy books.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

No he was a shit to his family, and also antisemetic I think.

You are correct, Blighton was cancelled some time ago. Can't be having gollywogs in Noddy books.

Sure every one was antisemetic back then, you’d nearly get cancelled if you weren’t

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

One of my classmates used to call me Jew because I had a big nose, the teacher told us they had big noses. I think I moaned about that here before. I must try and cancel the pair of them some day soon.

 

[Cormcolash]

One of my classmates used to call me Jew because I had a big nose, the teacher told us they had big noses. I think I moaned about that here before. I must try and cancel the pair of them some day soon.

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[Cormcolash]

Kramer?

YOU CAN TALK YOU CAN TALK YOU CAN TALK!!

 

[therealjohnny]

 

[therealjohnny]

YOU CAN TALK YOU CAN TALK YOU CAN TALK!!

AND I CAN SIIIIIINNNNG!

 

[egg_]

Essay on Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's website

https://www.chimamanda.com/

This came up in work yesterday, and obvs everyone was very much against Adichie, and kind of took it for granted she's actually transphobic because she doesn't say exactly the right thing. It's weird the way people conflate disagreement with hatred

Two thoughts on this occurred to me afterwards.

First is this - is it plausible that when people say "trans women are women" they mean "there is a category of humans called 'women' which includes biological women and trans women" ... but so-called transphobes think they mean "trans women and biological women are exactly identical", and disagree? And all the gnashing of teeth is simply a failure to be linguistically precise?

Second is this - fantasy writers often construct worlds where words are all-powerful (e.g. Ursula K. LeGuin in the Earthsea stuff, also Patrick Rothfuss's Name Of The Wind books), which IMO is a kind of wish-fulfillment thing for people whose stock-in-trade is words. Could cancel culture be a reflection of us all becoming convinced that words are more important than actions, as a consequence of the internet making us all into writers?

 

[JohnnyRaz]

This came up in work yesterday, and obvs everyone was very much against Adichie, and kind of took it for granted she's actually transphobic because she doesn't say exactly the right thing. It's weird the way people conflate disagreement with hatred

Two thoughts on this occurred to me afterwards.

First is this - is it plausible that when people say "trans women are women" they mean "there is a category of humans called 'women' which includes biological women and trans women" ... but so-called transphobes think they mean "trans women and biological women are exactly identical", and disagree? And all the gnashing of teeth is simply a failure to be linguistically precise?

Second is this - fantasy writers often construct worlds where words are all-powerful (e.g. Ursula K. LeGuin in the Earthsea stuff, also Patrick Rothfuss's Name Of The Wind books), which IMO is a kind of wish-fulfillment thing for people whose stock-in-trade is words. Could cancel culture be a reflection of us all becoming convinced that words are more important than actions, as a consequence of the internet making us all into writers?

interesting point - the internet has democratized commentary for sure.

 

[Unicron]

This came up in work yesterday, and obvs everyone was very much against Adichie, and kind of took it for granted she's actually transphobic because she doesn't say exactly the right thing. It's weird the way people conflate disagreement with hatred

Two thoughts on this occurred to me afterwards.

First is this - is it plausible that when people say "trans women are women" they mean "there is a category of humans called 'women' which includes biological women and trans women" ... but so-called transphobes think they mean "trans women and biological women are exactly identical", and disagree? And all the gnashing of teeth is simply a failure to be linguistically precise?

I think there's a lot of it in arguments over "gender is just a social construct" vs. "gender is strictly scientifically related to one's biological sex organs (which excludes a proportion of the population, I'm not sure how large it is but they're there)."

A while ago I got hopped on on twitter because I used some variant of "so and so was assigned *some gender* at birth" and my mentions filled up with a load of people (mostly English woman, the less transphobic baseline of Irish feminism vs. English feminism is an interesting case) going "you mean so and so had *some gender* OBSERVED at birth" or similar.

 

[snakybus]

Haha this reminds me of big arguments we had when I was maybe in 2nd class about whether Enid Blyton was a man or a woman. She was actually a woman

She wrote some great books, in fairness to her.

"But it was a different time!"

I'm not even going to tell you what their names were. You can guess.

 

[Cormcolash]

also Patrick Rothfuss's Name Of The Wind books), ?

If only there were a power word that would finish his fuckin books