Cormcolash
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I've definitely seen gravel in some race before for sure, but I can't remember which it was, and yeah it sure wasn't as class as that Giro stage
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el bolo del mundo in la vuelta is a dirt track at >25%. It was the climb that renowned doper David Millar complained about and said cyclists were being treated like circus monkeys.
He should have just taken better drugs tbh
And one of the newer classics, the Straide Bianchi, is run on seconds of those chalk roads in Italy.
yeah that sounds fairly accurate but if the internet mob demand sanctions then that's a factor too, so popularity can come into it.
I think Bouhanni has being singled out for a long time and there is a witch hunt that is fuelling racism against him.
until a sprint in Paris Nice in 2016 where Bouhanni was correctly DQed for dangerous sprinting which almost caused Michael Matthews to crash I'd never seen him do anything out of order but a lot of people hated him even before then.
Bouhanni knew what he was doing - no defence that time.
but what happened to Jake Stewart (FDJ) was not comparable and IMO you couldn't say it was deliberate anymore than many other incidents.
YES - Bouhanni deserved to be disqualified in Cholet. it was dangerous but to say this was 'deliberate' is
a big step and I think unfair.
it seems if a load of people complain or if the sport looks bad they do something otherwise - nah, no ban.
here is the finish of the 2015 French Champs. Bouhanni (Cofidis) is taken out by an FDJ rider when he was set to win the national title at the peak of his career.
the commentary is a few seconds out of sync ahead of the pictures.
wreckless but not deliberate sprinting by Anthony Roux similar to Ackermann last year in Scheldeprijs.
Roux was DQ but no ban.
in the Tour afterwards Bouhanni already messed up from this crash came down in several more peloton crashes (none of which were his fault) and had to quit in the first week.
in 2017 Arnaud Demare went fairly sideways in a sprint in the French Champs to beat Bouhanni.
it was just about legal under strict sprinting rules and the result stood.
maybe the biggest pile up I've ever seen in a sprint was in the Tour de Suisse in 2010. there was a protest against Cavendish the next day. Arnaud Coyot broke his hip in this crash. video ends @1:40
strangely the you tube comments don't really blame Cav!!
unbelievably Cavendish was allowed start the following stage and was only fined 200 Francs. WTF?
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I am mentally unable to deal with hypocrisy in case you can't tell.
PS: Arnaud Coyot died in a car accident in 2013. never knew that until just now....
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great stuff, nuke.
Cavendish was a total arrogant prick, but thats what made him so successful. His zero-fucks attitude meant he didn't care if he pissed lads off, so long as he got his victories. I kind of begrudgingly admired him for that. He was some competitor.
He never struck me as the sharpest tool in the box but I did like hearing him interviewed after sprint stages. He had a great ability to deconstruct a stage final in great detail in the immediate aftermath, which is impressive.
I always liked riders who came to ride those 3 editions of the Tour of Ireland when they were on. Cavendish deffo rode 2 of them. I remember sitting in a cafe down at Grand Canal dock the year it started there, and the Colombia team were beside me and my mate having their pre-race coffee. Cavendish was the life and soul, but looked nervous as hell. I remember some good banter between him and Adam Hansen, who was riding for another team. I think Hansen fell and broke his arm in that edition of the race. It was also the year Dan Martin rode in the national champs jersey. He ended up pulling out due to saddle sores.
I'd say a psychologist would have a lot of fun with Cav.
he's very vulnerable and needs a lot of validation.
last year when it looked like he might not get a contract and it was over for him, I saw an interview with Cav where he was talking about himself and the all the races he'd won as if that was still where his career was and completely ignoring that he hadn't won a race since 2018.
he's great at dissecting stage finishes post race.
Cipollini said about Cav in the early 2010's that Cavendish should have been winning races far more comfortably and more often.
Cav was unknown to me until his last season at U 23 when he suddenly won a lot
strade bianche stage in Giro on Wednesday sounds like a hard one.
Egan Bernal was third in Strade Bianche a few months ago.
he's very vulnerable and needs a lot of validation.
last year when it looked like he might not get a contract and it was over for him, I saw an interview with Cav where he was talking about himself and the all the races he'd won as if that was still where his career was and completely ignoring that he hadn't won a race since 2018.
he's great at dissecting stage finishes post race.
Cipollini said about Cav in the early 2010's that Cavendish should have been winning races far more comfortably and more often.
Cav was unknown to me until his last season at U 23 when he suddenly won a lot
strade bianche stage in Giro on Wednesday sounds like a hard one.
Egan Bernal was third in Strade Bianche a few months ago.
this is so true. Teams used to assign him a 'minder'. For years that was Bernhard Eisel. It wouldn't be uncommon for a protected rider to have a minder, but Eisel was more than that for Cavendish. He was like his minder, his mother, and her personal security guard all rolled into one. I never thought I'd see one race without the other.
Cav's deal with DQS suits him to a tee. There are so many high-profile riders there that he kind of slips under the radar a bit. There isn't the same kind of pressure on him as there used to be and, as you rightly said, his ability was never in question, but his mentality was. I remember Cavendish winning a tour stage after a relative (for him) dry spell. In his interview he said that one of the other sprinters (possibly Greipel) had a chat with him and said, 'the fact you aren't winning isn't down to your ability, its up in your head'. After that Cavendish started winning all round him. Greipel should have kept his gob shut. Though you'd wonder how a top professional, riding on the top professional teams, wouldn't have thought that something very obvious. Again, I don't think hes the smartest lad.
Griepel is sound. he's won more races than Cav - 157 v 150 too.
early on in Eisel's career he finished in 5th Roubaix in 2006 and looked a very good prospect as a sprinter and for the pave classics.
I remember going to the Tour of Ireland at Ennis in 2007 thinking Eisel would be a good bet for the stage win.
he finished 2nd and was close on a couple of other stages. he was often up there in sprints but didn't win often.
but after 2007 (when Cav turned pro) he totally dedicated himself to Cav's service.
I'd say Eisel is hugely respected even by people who can't stand Cavendish.
I saw Cav win a stage in Salthill in 2008 - he was buzzing afterwards.
I had totally forgotten until recently that I saw Shane Archibold win a Ras stage in Nenagh in 2013.
early on in Eisel's career he finished in 5th Roubaix in 2006 and looked a very good prospect as a sprinter and for the pave classics.
I remember going to the Tour of Ireland at Ennis in 2007 thinking Eisel would be a good bet for the stage win.
he finished 2nd and was close on a couple of other stages. he was often up there in sprints but didn't win often.
but after 2007 (when Cav turned pro) he totally dedicated himself to Cav's service.
I'd say Eisel is hugely respected even by people who can't stand Cavendish.
I saw Cav win a stage in Salthill in 2008 - he was buzzing afterwards.
I had totally forgotten until recently that I saw Shane Archibold win a Ras stage in Nenagh in 2013.
Total war of a stage.
The break hit the first strade bianche section with 69 km to go and you would need thousands of words to do justice to what happened.
Even close to the end lads who were looking strong were suddenly cracking.
The break hit the first strade bianche section with 69 km to go and you would need thousands of words to do justice to what happened.
Even close to the end lads who were looking strong were suddenly cracking.
Cormcolash
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FUCKIN KNEW I SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN AND WATCHED IT TODAY!!
Loadsa white gravel, loadsa dust, loadsa climbing, the amount of subplots was staggering.
They need another rest day tomorrow but there's a mountain stage.
In the Breakaway after show Kelly was joking about badly falling out with Roche at Paris-Nice where poor Stefan tended to finish 2nd to Kelly and later Indurain.
Gotta go Dalymount is on Nationwide on RTE 1 now!
They need another rest day tomorrow but there's a mountain stage.
In the Breakaway after show Kelly was joking about badly falling out with Roche at Paris-Nice where poor Stefan tended to finish 2nd to Kelly and later Indurain.
Gotta go Dalymount is on Nationwide on RTE 1 now!
Cormcolash
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Highlights of the stage were good shit anyway. That big 10% street up to the finish line was hilarious.
Saw the Dalymount show too, nothing new there really but those drawings yer one was doing were cool
Saw the Dalymount show too, nothing new there really but those drawings yer one was doing were cool
about 35 km left in hugely curtailed Giro queen stage to today reduced to 153 km.
no Passo Pordoi (Cima Coppi) and another big climb taken out.
weather is so cold and wet there was no pictures for a lot of the early part of the stage.
almost no one isn't wearing leggings.
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Good News: Pippa York is in the studio with Orla and Wiggo on Eurosport.
no Passo Pordoi (Cima Coppi) and another big climb taken out.
weather is so cold and wet there was no pictures for a lot of the early part of the stage.
almost no one isn't wearing leggings.
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Good News: Pippa York is in the studio with Orla and Wiggo on Eurosport.
no pictures of last of last 20 km today until last 400 metres.
Considering Orla (who was either Irish long or triple champ I forget which) started off as a cheerleader for the the Sky team in 2010 as their cycling / Sky team correspondent. she knew very little about cycling then and all things considered to still be working as a cycling broadcaster after all these years is good going!
an article she did for Rouleur magazine on sexual harassment in women's cycling was by far her best moment. the guy who was the main subject of her writing has since been banned.
she is what she is I suppose.
I don't mind Wiggo as a pundit but as people here said before he has a laughably inflated ideas about his own career. procyclingstats.com ranks him as the 163 best cyclist ever, several places behind Dan Martin.
Wiggo was a great track rider and TT specialist - i'll give him that.
BUT
he only won one world Tour race before he was 30 - a Dauphine stage.
he never won a mountain stage of any pro race.
he only won three road races in his entire career:
a Tour de l'Avenir stage, the GB road race champs and a stage of the Tour de Romandie where he surprised everyone winning a small bunch sprint.
he only finished in the top ten of one classic - 9th in Roubaix in 2014.
that's a lot of holes in the career a 'grand champion' in his own mind.
if you read the early few dozen posts of this thread from 2007 you can see I was supportive of Wiggo at that point, he used to say all the right things about doping then but then did a major back flip
after his road career took off and became a big hypocrite contradicting his previous stance.
At least Pippa is cool!
she had this very awkward / spikey personality in her career but I always suspected it was just a front. and when interviewed after she began to appear in public again as Pippa, she confirmed that this was indeed just a front - a coping mechanism.
I knew it! Brian Smith, Graeme Obree and other people will attest to how much she helped them.
my fave commentator is Magnus Backstedt, really nice guy, great at explaining inside cycling knowledge and tactics, can indentify riders from huge distances by their riding style.
also when the 1998 Tour de France blood tests were finally made public, Maggie who won a stage that year (still only Swede to do so) wasn't named as positive or 'suspicious' for EPO.
Considering Orla (who was either Irish long or triple champ I forget which) started off as a cheerleader for the the Sky team in 2010 as their cycling / Sky team correspondent. she knew very little about cycling then and all things considered to still be working as a cycling broadcaster after all these years is good going!
an article she did for Rouleur magazine on sexual harassment in women's cycling was by far her best moment. the guy who was the main subject of her writing has since been banned.
she is what she is I suppose.
I don't mind Wiggo as a pundit but as people here said before he has a laughably inflated ideas about his own career. procyclingstats.com ranks him as the 163 best cyclist ever, several places behind Dan Martin.
Wiggo was a great track rider and TT specialist - i'll give him that.
BUT
he only won one world Tour race before he was 30 - a Dauphine stage.
he never won a mountain stage of any pro race.
he only won three road races in his entire career:
a Tour de l'Avenir stage, the GB road race champs and a stage of the Tour de Romandie where he surprised everyone winning a small bunch sprint.
he only finished in the top ten of one classic - 9th in Roubaix in 2014.
that's a lot of holes in the career a 'grand champion' in his own mind.
if you read the early few dozen posts of this thread from 2007 you can see I was supportive of Wiggo at that point, he used to say all the right things about doping then but then did a major back flip
after his road career took off and became a big hypocrite contradicting his previous stance.
At least Pippa is cool!
she had this very awkward / spikey personality in her career but I always suspected it was just a front. and when interviewed after she began to appear in public again as Pippa, she confirmed that this was indeed just a front - a coping mechanism.
I knew it! Brian Smith, Graeme Obree and other people will attest to how much she helped them.
my fave commentator is Magnus Backstedt, really nice guy, great at explaining inside cycling knowledge and tactics, can indentify riders from huge distances by their riding style.
also when the 1998 Tour de France blood tests were finally made public, Maggie who won a stage that year (still only Swede to do so) wasn't named as positive or 'suspicious' for EPO.
well unfortunately Eurosport's highlights programme had none of the footage that the camera bikes shot but were unable to beam out due to lack of helicopters in the air earlier.
so none the wiser as to what happened in last 20 km.
the whole point of GCN should be to get this footage out if it exists -we want to see it.
some of my highlights of the last week;
Nizzolo finally winning a stage after 11 second places in the Giro.
Matej Mohoric being OK with only mild concussion and not even a mark of the rest his body after crashing on his head on a descent.
all the successful breakaways have been great - love a good break. there seems to a lot more time given
to breaks since about 2012 some boffin worked out that it was best to give break only 3 odd minutes but there seems be more leeway this time.
also the on bike pissing moment with 34-35 km to go on stage 15 will pass into legend!
on the stage 12 won by Andrea Vendrame, Nibali attacked on the final descent just for the hell of it to mess with Ineos. rather than let him go and keep him under control on the final flat part, the biggest twit in the peloton Gianni Moscon took the bait and took a big smack off the road going into a hair pin - instant karma.
DOWNSIDE:
no more crashes than usual but a lot of them have been bad and taken some big names out the race.
neutralizing the race on Sunday on an unusual road on a lagoon was a good call. some guys were really badly hurt.
so none the wiser as to what happened in last 20 km.
the whole point of GCN should be to get this footage out if it exists -we want to see it.
some of my highlights of the last week;
Nizzolo finally winning a stage after 11 second places in the Giro.
Matej Mohoric being OK with only mild concussion and not even a mark of the rest his body after crashing on his head on a descent.
all the successful breakaways have been great - love a good break. there seems to a lot more time given
to breaks since about 2012 some boffin worked out that it was best to give break only 3 odd minutes but there seems be more leeway this time.
also the on bike pissing moment with 34-35 km to go on stage 15 will pass into legend!
on the stage 12 won by Andrea Vendrame, Nibali attacked on the final descent just for the hell of it to mess with Ineos. rather than let him go and keep him under control on the final flat part, the biggest twit in the peloton Gianni Moscon took the bait and took a big smack off the road going into a hair pin - instant karma.
DOWNSIDE:
no more crashes than usual but a lot of them have been bad and taken some big names out the race.
neutralizing the race on Sunday on an unusual road on a lagoon was a good call. some guys were really badly hurt.
this is a sprint finish in stage 7 of the 1982 Giro. I found this looking for footage of Moser, Saronni and Hinault a few years ago.
in a battle between Giuseppe Saronni (3rd Del Tongo, yellow), Franceso Moser (Italian champ, right) and Paolo Rosola (Atala, blue and silver hoops, on left) the Maglia Rosa is on the line for the stage winner.
@ 6:10 Moser leads out the sprint but Rosola draws level and raises his hands to celebrate the win BUT
it's extremely close and it takes 8 minutes to declare a winner @ 14:25
then winner jumps up and heads to edge of the podium to accept the adulation!
the crowd love it and go crazy! great stuff. also features Hinault who lost the pink jersey that day.
proper old school Italian chaos.
Rosola (b. 1957) who won 12 Giro stages was from Gussago the same Lombard town as Guido Bontempi (b. 1960) who won 16 Giro stages and 26 G.T. stages in total.
Rosola won 3 Giro stages in 1987 and the photos of him pouring a bottle of wine over his head (complete with his little ponytail) was a classic image.
the Atala team's blue and silver hoops were an integral part of Italian cycling for most of the 20th century winning the first ever Giro. the team finally folded at the end of the 80's.
serial top 10 finisher in big races Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig finally won her first World Tour race at the weekend.
the interview at the 2019 Tour of Flanders launched her online media career -
''Let's put the hammer down!'' ''Happy Dead Fish!"
the women's 2018 La Course race before a Tour de France stage in 2018 was one the best races of the year won by her team mate Annemeik Van Vleuten in a epic battle with Van der Breggen. IMO only Nibali's San Remo win was better that year. a very emotional Cecilie was 4th on the day.
a great day the women racers were really psyched about
''IF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BAD LEGS, YOU KNOW PULL YOUR WISDOM TOOTH OUT!''
in a battle between Giuseppe Saronni (3rd Del Tongo, yellow), Franceso Moser (Italian champ, right) and Paolo Rosola (Atala, blue and silver hoops, on left) the Maglia Rosa is on the line for the stage winner.
@ 6:10 Moser leads out the sprint but Rosola draws level and raises his hands to celebrate the win BUT
it's extremely close and it takes 8 minutes to declare a winner @ 14:25
then winner jumps up and heads to edge of the podium to accept the adulation!
the crowd love it and go crazy! great stuff. also features Hinault who lost the pink jersey that day.
proper old school Italian chaos.
Rosola (b. 1957) who won 12 Giro stages was from Gussago the same Lombard town as Guido Bontempi (b. 1960) who won 16 Giro stages and 26 G.T. stages in total.
Rosola won 3 Giro stages in 1987 and the photos of him pouring a bottle of wine over his head (complete with his little ponytail) was a classic image.
the Atala team's blue and silver hoops were an integral part of Italian cycling for most of the 20th century winning the first ever Giro. the team finally folded at the end of the 80's.
serial top 10 finisher in big races Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig finally won her first World Tour race at the weekend.
the interview at the 2019 Tour of Flanders launched her online media career -
''Let's put the hammer down!'' ''Happy Dead Fish!"
the women's 2018 La Course race before a Tour de France stage in 2018 was one the best races of the year won by her team mate Annemeik Van Vleuten in a epic battle with Van der Breggen. IMO only Nibali's San Remo win was better that year. a very emotional Cecilie was 4th on the day.
a great day the women racers were really psyched about
''IF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BAD LEGS, YOU KNOW PULL YOUR WISDOM TOOTH OUT!''
this is a sprint finish in stage 7 of the 1982 Giro. I found this looking for footage of Moser, Saronni and Hinault a few years ago.
in a battle between Giuseppe Saronni (3rd Del Tongo, yellow), Franceso Moser (Italian champ, right) and Paolo Rosola (Atala, blue and silver hoops, on left) the Maglia Rosa is on the line for the stage winner.
@ 6:10 Moser leads out the sprint but Rosola draws level and raises his hands to celebrate the win BUT
it's extremely close and it takes 8 minutes to declare a winner @ 14:25
then winner jumps up and heads to edge of the podium to accept the adulation!
the crowd love it and go crazy! great stuff. also features Hinault who lost the pink jersey that day.
proper old school Italian chaos.
Rosola (b. 1957) who won 12 Giro stages was from Gussago the same Lombard town as Guido Bontempi (b. 1960) who won 16 Giro stages and 26 G.T. stages in total.
Rosola won 3 Giro stages in 1987 and the photos of him pouring a bottle of wine over his head (complete with his little ponytail) was a classic image.
the Atala team's blue and silver hoops were an integral part of Italian cycling for most of the 20th century winning the first ever Giro. the team finally folded at the end of the 80's.
serial top 10 finisher in big races Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig finally won her first World Tour race at the weekend.
the interview at the 2019 Tour of Flanders launched her online media career -
''Let's put the hammer down!'' ''Happy Dead Fish!"
the women's 2018 La Course race before a Tour de France stage in 2018 was one the best races of the year won by her team mate Annemeik Van Vleuten in a epic battle with Van der Breggen. IMO only Nibali's San Remo win was better that year. a very emotional Cecilie was 4th on the day.
a great day the women racers were really psyched about
''IF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BAD LEGS, YOU KNOW PULL YOUR WISDOM TOOTH OUT!''
I'm such a CUL stan, and not in a pervy way (unusual for me). Shes such a personality. The men's game is sadly devoid of characters like that anymore. Sagan aside, they're all wooden as fuck.
Great posts @nuke terrorist . I'm a bit out of the loop with the Giro cos of work. But I did catch the Zoncolan stage on saturday. It was fairly boring really, apart from the last 200m which was excruciating. Those gradients are completely inhumane.
I'll try and tune back into it after the rest day but it seems Bernal has the race in the bag, while Sagan has the sprinters jersey sown up.
yeah - the overall Giro situation is a boring. Kilian Kelly on Sunday that the only guy in top 26 overall who won a stage was Egan Bernal. which is unprecedented at this stage of the race.
all the lads winning in breaks make up for it.
you can win a stage honestly but a grand tour ? nah unfortunately....
Cecilie would have won a lot more races if she could sprint. she is amazingly humoured which is something that always impresses me and has her own unique way of expressing her emotions
if anyone else does interviews half as good as her I'd like to know.
all the lads winning in breaks make up for it.
you can win a stage honestly but a grand tour ? nah unfortunately....
Cecilie would have won a lot more races if she could sprint. she is amazingly humoured which is something that always impresses me and has her own unique way of expressing her emotions
if anyone else does interviews half as good as her I'd like to know.
boooo, another sky fanboy creep
hes as 2-faced as they come. He put out an 'anti-Pat McQuaid' pamphlet at the time he was up for re-election for UCI president (he had to be proposed by cycling Ireland). He contacted me directly about my voting intentions at the time - it was the one year I hadn't taken out CI membership so had no vote anyway). As it turned out, one of the board of CI threatened to resign in protest if McQuaid was put forward, so it turned out he wasn't (Brian Cookson, another sky fanboy, got in, and was way worse than McQuaid).
it just got my dander up when Kelly started defending Sky and trolling people calling out their bullshit after he himself went after McQuaid the way he did.
Also, I think he offers nothing to the overall cycling discourse. He quotes numbers and facts but has zero insight to the actual innards of competitive sport. Mostly because he was a useless fucker himself.
As an aside, I despise GCN overall. I think they represent everything bad about the sport. They glorify dopers (see their Johan Museeuw love-in) and tend to ignore the whole doping elephant in the room. That, and they are staffed by utter sycophants like SkyOrla and Kelly. They actually turn my stomach.
Cheers for your insight on all that rettucs.
I only know Kilian Kelly as statistician. if you read my own posts they are full of facts but very lacking on inside knowledge or real understanding of bike racing - so I am more likely to be impressed by statistics than I should be.
on the whole cycling is in a big mess :
The worst team sponsors money dirty can buy, totally ineffective anti doping, apathetic fans (e.g. me!)
almost nobody gets caught doping - who was the last big name who was caught ? I can't remember anyone. Froome should have been banned but the Sky lawyers dragged the case out so long the UCI didn't have a enough money to contest it and get him banned - a truly horrendous moment for all sport that that could happen.
Cherrie Prudhomme who is the DS for Israel CP is commentating today - she has only good things to say about Froome - one step forward, one step back.
on moral grounds really we should not be watching this at all but it's not going away and in certain places - like Ireland - cycling has never been more popular. in the 2000's i would have been shocked at the level of apathy I have about cycling now. I took it very seriously and was very anti doping and only really liked the likes of Moncoutie or Pinotti now I only watch it for the crack and don't follow it closely.
the one ray of light is a rapid rise in women's cycling and David Lappartient is the first half decent UCI president.
the Giro is now on a really beautiful climb they used in Trentino in 2014 that I remember well with 50 km to go. it's narrow, VERY steep and beautiful forest the whole way up.
I only know Kilian Kelly as statistician. if you read my own posts they are full of facts but very lacking on inside knowledge or real understanding of bike racing - so I am more likely to be impressed by statistics than I should be.
on the whole cycling is in a big mess :
The worst team sponsors money dirty can buy, totally ineffective anti doping, apathetic fans (e.g. me!)
almost nobody gets caught doping - who was the last big name who was caught ? I can't remember anyone. Froome should have been banned but the Sky lawyers dragged the case out so long the UCI didn't have a enough money to contest it and get him banned - a truly horrendous moment for all sport that that could happen.
Cherrie Prudhomme who is the DS for Israel CP is commentating today - she has only good things to say about Froome - one step forward, one step back.
on moral grounds really we should not be watching this at all but it's not going away and in certain places - like Ireland - cycling has never been more popular. in the 2000's i would have been shocked at the level of apathy I have about cycling now. I took it very seriously and was very anti doping and only really liked the likes of Moncoutie or Pinotti now I only watch it for the crack and don't follow it closely.
the one ray of light is a rapid rise in women's cycling and David Lappartient is the first half decent UCI president.
the Giro is now on a really beautiful climb they used in Trentino in 2014 that I remember well with 50 km to go. it's narrow, VERY steep and beautiful forest the whole way up.
corrections: Cherie Pridham is the DS w/ Israel S.U. - sorry.
and after some confusion the Giro del Trentino stage I was talking about above was from 2013 and I had mixed up the last two climbs.
stage 4 finished on the final Sega di Ala climb (Nibali) where Dan Martin won Wednesday
looks just as cool with a small bit of snow on it.
Back to stage 17 on Wednesday:
thought with 10km of climbing to got at 9.8% that there was no chance the breakaway w/ Dan Martin would make it with only a 90 second lead but his time on the climb was only bettered by a handful of riders. anyway really enjoyed the stage and finally there was some weakness from Bernal, but he came in
with Damiano Caruso who is still second so not much changes overall.
recent video of local Moreno Moser showing off climb:
they drop into see his uncle Frankie and his bikes in cool looking museum
EDIT: yes - I am well aware Professor Conconi made his name with Francesco Moser who was involved in blood doping.
Giro del Trentino 2012 stage on Punta Veleno - 'Poison Peak' in Dolomites (Pozzovivo won)
climbfinder.com
truly crazy climb - dangerous w/ gravel / dirt road, big potholes, averages over 10% w/ long stretches over 15%, only motorbikes allowed, spectacular gorge like scenery.
I'm amazed any road race pro or otherwise was allowed on this -
I've never seen anything else like it. it's mountain bike territory - check out the section @27:47 !!!
they went back onto a proper road for the last 2 km
and after some confusion the Giro del Trentino stage I was talking about above was from 2013 and I had mixed up the last two climbs.
stage 4 finished on the final Sega di Ala climb (Nibali) where Dan Martin won Wednesday
looks just as cool with a small bit of snow on it.
Back to stage 17 on Wednesday:
thought with 10km of climbing to got at 9.8% that there was no chance the breakaway w/ Dan Martin would make it with only a 90 second lead but his time on the climb was only bettered by a handful of riders. anyway really enjoyed the stage and finally there was some weakness from Bernal, but he came in
with Damiano Caruso who is still second so not much changes overall.
recent video of local Moreno Moser showing off climb:
they drop into see his uncle Frankie and his bikes in cool looking museum
EDIT: yes - I am well aware Professor Conconi made his name with Francesco Moser who was involved in blood doping.
Giro del Trentino 2012 stage on Punta Veleno - 'Poison Peak' in Dolomites (Pozzovivo won)
Punta Veleno from Castello di Brenzone - Profile of the ascent
Punta Veleno from Castello di Brenzone is a climb in the region Veneto. It is 7.9km long and bridges 1005 vertical meters with an average gradient of 12.7%, res
climbfinder.com
truly crazy climb - dangerous w/ gravel / dirt road, big potholes, averages over 10% w/ long stretches over 15%, only motorbikes allowed, spectacular gorge like scenery.
I'm amazed any road race pro or otherwise was allowed on this -
I've never seen anything else like it. it's mountain bike territory - check out the section @27:47 !!!
they went back onto a proper road for the last 2 km
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