Sexism, god help us (3 Viewers)

[Reets]

Again, it's not unusual and a lot of girls have it far worse.

I understand that it can be shitty if you're just trying to start a friendly conversation with a girl and she acts like you're being a creep, but the basic fact is she is reacting that way for a reason.

 

[egg_]

but they're not weirdos. and their behaviour isn't seen as any big deal.

What? Who do you know that thinks following a woman down the street isn't a big deal?

Would be interested to see an equivalent video shot in different cities and countries

 

[Reets]

I think she means that in everyday situations they are not considered weirdos. These are considered normal people and their friends probably laugh along with them if the girl tells them to piss off.

 

[Unicron]

What? Who do you know that thinks following a woman down the street isn't a big deal?

Would be interested to see an equivalent video shot in different cities and countries

There's been one floating around the web for a while, maybe even a couple of years, of a similar video shot in Belgium.

 

[Space]

Lads you should ask the ladies in your lives if they've had similar experiences.

 

[taubstumm]

i can’t figure out how to embed this, but anyway...

10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Man from FOD News

 

[Space]

This is worth a read two, it highlights the inherent racism in the original video.

Catcalling video: Hollaback's look at street harassment in NYC edited out the white guys.

 

[nooleen]

What? Who do you know that thinks following a woman down the street isn't a big deal?

try reading the comments on that video, anywhere it was posted.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Nothing that hasn't been said before, but now in easy to digest cartoon form

Next Time Someone Says Women Aren't Victims Of Harassment, Show Them This.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

 

[egg_]

Lads you should ask the ladies in your lives if they've had similar experiences.

My ma got catcalled a lot back in the 60s. Mrs. egg_ says she has never encountered anything like this at all.

There aren't that many other women in my life, and I don't see them very often, but ask them I will. What about the women in your life, Moose?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

 

[egg_]

try reading the comments on that video, anywhere it was posted.

I meant in real life. Do you know anyone in real life who thinks following a woman down the street isn't a big deal? I don't, but lots of stuff on here is new to me

 

[nooleen]

apart from the men i've met in real life that have followed me down the street?

 

[egg_]

yes, apart from those men

 

[nooleen]

and how many people in your life have you asked specifically whether they think following a woman down the street is a big deal? because i can't say it's a conversation that's ever come up

 

[egg_]

Can we put aside the fact that you think I'm a dick, just for a minute? I'm trying to understand what you meant when you said that nobody thinks this behaviour is a big deal. I think it's a big deal, and I'm pretty sure anyone I know thinks it's a big deal, but maybe I'm wrong, say maybe you were followed down the street and told someone about it and they said "sure what are you making a fuss about".

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

A friend of mine followed a girl from the bus home one night, they ended up going out for a year.
I'm not sure I have a point though. Maybe that these exceptions somehow 'justify' the other times it happens?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I think the fact that it's been happening forever and there is still shock/pushback when it is stated that it is happening, kind of underlines that it isn't a big deal.
If it was a big deal, we'd have done something about it.
Women haven't been keeping it a secret, they've just got tired of talking about it and having it dismissed.

It seems to me that the issue would be better served if men in general stopped looking at it as an issue of their gender's behaviour to be defensive about, but as a question of the welfare of the women in our lives.

 

[nooleen]

where did i say i think you're a dick, egg? there are endless examples of men doing this with impunity and you discount my experience, discount rita's experience, discount video evidence, and discount the massive presence of online commenters who think the video is hypersensitive bullshit.

also see 7's response above.