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unless she was underage, either for having sex or being depicted in a photo having sex, which apparently she was (17?)

so...there IS a crime here, possibly two crimes - statutory rape (if under 17) and distribution of child pornography (if under 18)



Oh for fuck sake come on. They got to you too ?

This is utter bullshit.

The law is very hazy when it comes to indecent exposure. But certainly it could be argued that, again, the blokes have committed an crime for nudity in relation to actions which may cause offence. The girl, assuming she kept her clothes on (I genuinely haven't been following it too closely), would not I don't think.


There's also a law about engaging in "lewd conduct" in public so shouldn't she be under arrest right now ?

I mean what's good for the fucking goose right ?
 
Oh for fuck sake come on. They got to you too ?

This is utter bullshit.
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unless she was underage, either for having sex or being depicted in a photo having sex, which apparently she was (17?)

so...there IS a crime here, possibly two crimes - statutory rape (if under 17) and distribution of indecent images of a minor (if under 18)

According to the child trafficking and pornography act 1998 the age threshold for pornographic images being illegal under Irish law is if the subject of the images is under 17 (see link below) so if the girl is in fact 17 as has been suggested in today's papers and as can be inferred from her twitter bio no crime has been commited by distributing the images under that law. Similarly if she's 17 then statutory rape doesn't apply either. No one has said anything about the possible ages of the boys in question so there may still be an isssue there. Whatever the rights and wrongs of 17 being the threshold that's a different discussion.

Where I suspect there is a crime though is that I'm fairly certain that lewd conduct/public indecency laws (however they're described under the law here) would be violated by a couple engaging in public fellatio. But unless I'm actually physically present to witness and be upset (yeah, right, I'd just take my exit probably) by the act then personally I'm not particularly bothered by it, it's not on them that their probable offence was photographed and then I saw the picture.

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/criminal_law/criminal_offences/law_on_sex_offences_in_ireland.html
 
Grand, now where we:

Hold on a sec, would we all be of the same opinion that this girl did nothing to rebuke? Don't get me wrong I abhor the furore and really feel for the poor girl but, call me a prude, I'm not sure I'd agree with that. For me it would be something on a par with defecating in the middle of Grafton St at Christmas. Hardly newsworthy but surely not to be endorsed either. And before anyone says anything, the blokes involved are just as (forgive me another word escapes me) bad.

someone take it from here.
 
According to the child trafficking and pornography act 1998 the age threshold for pornographic images being illegal under Irish law is if the subject of the images is under 17 (see link below) so if the girl is in fact 17 as has been suggested in today's papers and as can be inferred from her twitter bio no crime has been commited by distributing the images under that law. Similarly if she's 17 then statutory rape doesn't apply either. No one has said anything about the possible ages of the boys in question so there may still be an isssue there. Whatever the rights and wrongs of 17 being the threshold that's a different discussion.

Where I suspect there is a crime though is that I'm fairly certain that lewd conduct/public indecency laws (however they're described under the law here) would be violated by a couple engaging in public fellatio. But unless I'm actually physically present to witness and be upset (yeah, right, I'd just take my exit probably) by the act then personally I'm not particularly bothered by it, it's not on them that their probable offence was photographed and then I saw the picture.

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/criminal_law/criminal_offences/law_on_sex_offences_in_ireland.html


So if the lad is 15 she goes to jail right ?

Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.

Remember when I said that or attitudes towards sex are from the fucking dark ages. This is exactly what I mean.

"Public blow job you say, well quick arrest someone.

Who ?

Well him obviously. Girls are all sweetness and light and clearly she's a victim here of male oppression.

Oh right okay."


Even the twitter stuff is ridiculous, I'm sure half the people calling her a slut were girls to begin with.

Girls bullying girls on the internet ? seriously who'd have thought ?

I'm so tired of the argument that teenage girls are innocent and "mixed up" while teenage boys are, to a man, a marauding horde of rapists. Neither of those two statements are true and as soon as we start to wise up and discuss it like adults it's going to end up in the "legal vs illegal" nonsense when the discussion should be "moral vs immoral" and sex it's self is not immoral.
 
So if the lad is 15 she goes to jail right ?

Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.

When I was referring to the as yet undetermined ages of the boys I meant in terms of whether or not the images constituted kiddie porn, not whether the lass should be banged up as a kiddie fiddler, sorry if I was unclear.
 
When I was referring to the as yet undetermined ages of the boys I meant in terms of whether or not the images constituted kiddie porn, not whether the lass should be banged up as a kiddie fiddler, sorry if I was unclear.

But if she was 16 and 364 days and he was 18 that very day then there'd be a fucking man hunt, tell me I'm wrong.
 
yer wrong
I admire your blatant refusal to acknowledge reality.

You remind me of me at your age.

*patronising pat on head*

Now run along you scamp.

i personally would applaud any person who took a shit on grafton street at christmas

I did bushy park a few christmases ago. I'm willing to give it a shot if someone buys me a few Guinnesses in the basement of Kennedy's to get my bowels moving.
 
But if she was 16 and 364 days and he was 18 that very day then there'd be a fucking man hunt, tell me I'm wrong.

I really don't think there would be, at least not universally. At this point whatever is prescribed in law it's still up to the DPP to bring charges, in the scenario you've described unless the girl/girl's family were really gung ho about charges being brought it's more than likely that it'd be let slide. The law says what it says but it's useless unless it's sensibly applied and most sensible people realise that an age of consent is basically an arbitrary number and that any case should be judged within the context of its circumstances.

There was a huge hold up in the drafting of legislation covered by the children's referendum, I mean in terms of years, due to the fact that no one could figure out if and how the age of consent should be dealt with under it (I think in the end it was just left out). This is one of the few things the PD's were right about.
 
The law says what it says but it's useless unless it's sensibly applied and most sensible people realise that an age of consent is basically an arbitrary number and that any case should be judged within the context of its circumstances.

HA "Sensible people"?

Sensible people do not involve themselves in this sort of thing. Fucked up zealots involve themselves in this sort of thing and it spirals out of control.

Has the Dail debated it yet ? Get back to me with your "sensible people" argument after they ban the internet on the basis that children will see it.
 
@washingcattle, are you seriously saying there'd be a 'manhunt' if there was an extremely borderline case for statutory rape?

considering there was no trace of any manhunt when it looked as though there might be a legitimate case for statutory rape here, i'd say you're only spewing rage-nonsense again
 
@washingcattle, are you seriously saying there'd be a 'manhunt' if there was an extremely borderline case for statutory rape?

considering there was no trace of any manhunt when it looked as though there might be a legitimate case for statutory rape here, i'd say you're only spewing rage-nonsense again

I'm saying that the case gets a lot of media attention, a politician or two steps in and makes it clear that

"this case will be investigated and the perpitrators will be brought to justice"

Then the country gets scoured looking for the people involved, who can't be named for legal reasons then the media moves on and ultimately it's someone elses 15 minutes.

It's going to happen to whoever took the photo and posted it.


It'll probably turn out that the image poster is 16 and the whole thing looks even more fucking ridiculous.


I'm hardly raging am I ? I think the whole thing is hillarious.
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Of course I'm a fucked up zealot. It's what I do.

I've never even pretended to be sensible
 
the law doesn't matter shit.

its the few thousand wee cowards who have been saying all kinds of crap on the internet about these people, particularly the young woman that i'd be worried about. If you want to see a blowjob, go and give somebody one.
 
the law doesn't matter shit.

its the few thousand wee cowards who have been saying all kinds of crap on the internet about these people, particularly the young woman that i'd be worried about. If you want to see a blowjob, go and give somebody one.
 
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