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Froog 01:57 PM 29th January 2009
Originally Posted by maims bond:
That's all well and good for people who live in big cities but how can you support a band if they don't come to your town? Most people I know will download something and then stick it on their shitpod and NOT go out and buy it. And whatever about downloading off major labels, it's the smaller labels that really suffer from illegal downloading, the ones that need most support.
fair enough, cd's are overpriced though, i mean 17 squid for a piece of plastic, of which a tiny fraction goes to the artist seems a bit ridiculous to me.That's all well and good for people who live in big cities but how can you support a band if they don't come to your town? Most people I know will download something and then stick it on their shitpod and NOT go out and buy it. And whatever about downloading off major labels, it's the smaller labels that really suffer from illegal downloading, the ones that need most support.
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maims bond 02:03 PM 29th January 2009
Originally Posted by Froog:
fair enough, cd's are overpriced though, i mean 17 squid for a piece of plastic, of which a tiny fraction goes to the artist seems a bit ridiculous to me.
That's true, but it's not the plastic you're paying for is it? It's the art contained therein. And if only a tiny fraction goes to the artist then that's between the record label and the artist, not a justification for outright stealing their output. fair enough, cd's are overpriced though, i mean 17 squid for a piece of plastic, of which a tiny fraction goes to the artist seems a bit ridiculous to me.
Put it this way: if you download and then buy what you like then fair enough. But Road's recent demise should highlight the fact that if illegal downloading continues then you won't have anywhere to buy the cds, apart from online, which is the way it's all going.
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Froog 02:13 PM 29th January 2009
you really think downloading was the main cause of road records going under though? plenty of other record shops doing fine, vinyl sales globally are up too apparently. more to do with the recession i'd say.
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maims bond 02:40 PM 29th January 2009
Originally Posted by Froog:
you really think downloading was the main cause of road records going under though? plenty of other record shops doing fine, vinyl sales globally are up too apparently. more to do with the recession i'd say.
One of the primary causes, yes.you really think downloading was the main cause of road records going under though? plenty of other record shops doing fine, vinyl sales globally are up too apparently. more to do with the recession i'd say.
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hugh 03:12 PM 29th January 2009
Originally Posted by Froog:
plenty of other record shops doing fine
Why do you think that? I get the impression they are all suffering .. just to greater and lesser degrees.plenty of other record shops doing fine
Originally Posted by Froog:
vinyl sales globally are up too apparently
Maybe. From miniscule to slightly-more-than-miniscule perhaps .... vinyl sales globally are up too apparently
Originally Posted by Froog:
more to do with the recession i'd say.
Undoubtedly. Once people have less money in their pockets they stop buying things they don't need to buy. You don't need to buy CDs or records when you can download your music for free.more to do with the recession i'd say.
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Froog 03:25 PM 29th January 2009
my conscious is clean.
and speaking of thievery, this 2 terabyte monster is a steal at 1,000 dollars! coupled with a juicy 20 meg broadband connection, you'll be throwing musicians on the streets in no time!
http://www.amazon.com/LaCie-Extreme-.../dp/B000AZFYQ0
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and speaking of thievery, this 2 terabyte monster is a steal at 1,000 dollars! coupled with a juicy 20 meg broadband connection, you'll be throwing musicians on the streets in no time!
http://www.amazon.com/LaCie-Extreme-.../dp/B000AZFYQ0
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Buffalo Ballet 03:59 PM 29th January 2009
What's the deal with record companies and/or bands giving free mp3s to websites, like pitchfork, and then charging for the same mp3s on itunes etc?
Also, is listening to something on youtube or other media website just as much copyright infringment because the musicians aren't getting any money for their music being on it? When we hear something on the radio it's different, because the musicians get something for every song that's played. Should we not look at youtube now either?
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Also, is listening to something on youtube or other media website just as much copyright infringment because the musicians aren't getting any money for their music being on it? When we hear something on the radio it's different, because the musicians get something for every song that's played. Should we not look at youtube now either?
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hermie 04:18 PM 29th January 2009
Originally Posted by Buffalo Ballet:
What's the deal with record companies and/or bands giving free mp3s to websites, like pitchfork, and then charging for the same mp3s on itunes etc?
Also, is listening to something on youtube or other media website just as much copyright infringment because the musicians aren't getting any money for their music being on it? When we hear something on the radio it's different, because the musicians get something for every song that's played. Should we not look at youtube now either?
I think you stream rather than download from most of them sites. To me it's the equivalent of giving out promo singles free to radio stations. People like to source their music themselves anymore and increasingly rely on the net rather than radio/tv to check out new stuff. Just like myspace or whatever, it's a means of promotion.What's the deal with record companies and/or bands giving free mp3s to websites, like pitchfork, and then charging for the same mp3s on itunes etc?
Also, is listening to something on youtube or other media website just as much copyright infringment because the musicians aren't getting any money for their music being on it? When we hear something on the radio it's different, because the musicians get something for every song that's played. Should we not look at youtube now either?
Froog, you moron, fuck all bands make money from touring. Most are lucky to break even. Money is made from record/merch sales and airplay. That's a lame justification
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ratmonkey 04:20 PM 29th January 2009
Haven't youtube started bying out royalties for some things now?
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I is John 07:30 PM 29th January 2009
this thread is better than the other one
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