ISPs providing addresses of p2p users to the IRMA?

[I is John]

yeah, I know people download stuff, I downloaded an album myself today. But streaming seems to be the way a lot of it is going. Spotify seems quite big, there's also Imeem.

But hard disk sharing is what a lot of people I know do for tv shows, films etc. Only one person has to download it or buy it in a group of 20-30 people and it makes its way around quite quick

[jcdonaggio]

Aye, nobody comes off well in that exchange. Also it's a little ridiculous when your designated IMRO spokesman is also the head of Aslan's record label. I mean the chances of Aslan & Willie Kavanagh disagreeing on any point were slim to none.

IMRO and IRMA are two different bodies!

IRMA = record companies
IMRO = songwriters.

[Gambra]

I've just been listening to the first minute or two of this and have done a mere 10 minutes of googling to try verify the claim of 25,000 downloads. The EMI press statement mentioned that they've tracked that amount of downloads "through Torrents Nova and Pirate Bay alone." The first problem with that is that there's no such site as Torrents Nova (I presumed they meant mininova but Aslan gets zero hits over there) but never mind, we'll carry on.

Next I search for ever possible permutation for downloads of the new Aslan album and I kept getting the same result which is "Aslan - Uncase'd (2009) KompletlyWyred Dhz.inc" which was uploaded to thepiratebay. However this file only has a grand total of 9 seeders and 6 leechers and has been alive since the 26th of June. There's no way of telling how many times it's been leeched exactly but even if it was 6 new leechers every day it'd be a total of 108 downloads. It is fair to assume that only 9 of these bothered to seed back so I'd say the total is right.

Wondering still where the hell they got their mystical 25,000 total from I just searched for "Aslan Uncased" and was surprised to see 5 links to torrents of the album in the first two pages of results. However 4 of the 5 just link back to the one on TPB with 9 seeders. The 5th is where I think they got their mystical 25,000 total from:

http://www.nowtorrents.com/torrents/aslan-uncased.html

This is the 7th result you get on google for the album title and when you click it you actually get "No Matches were found" but up at the top are FAKE results that are actually just ad links. You could search for anything and you'll get those exact same four ad results.

http://www.nowtorrents.com/torrents/gambra-thumped.html

If you refresh the totals change each time so it's safe to say they found this link by googling the name, added up the total of listed downloads they got (which is totally random) and are using that to moan about their loss of sales. Incredible.

[pete]

try explaining that to pat kenny

[Vinnie]

Yeah I know. It was a slip of the fingers. The point stands though

IMRO and IRMA are two different bodies!

IRMA = record companies
IMRO = songwriters.

[jcdonaggio]

I've just been listening to the first minute or two of this and have done a mere 10 minutes of googling to try verify the claim of 25,00 downloads. The EMI press statement mentioned that they've tracked that amount of downloads "through Torrents Nova and Pirate Bay alone." The first problem with that is that there's no such site as Torrents Nova (I presumed they meant mininova but Aslan gets zero hits over there) but never mind, we'll carry on.

Next I search for ever possible permutation for downloads of the new Aslan album and I kept getting the same result which is "Aslan - Uncase'd (2009) KompletlyWyred Dhz.inc" which was uploaded to thepiratebay. However this file only has a grand total of 9 seeders and 6 leechers and has been alive since the 26th of June. There's no way of telling how many times it's been leeched exactly but even if it was 6 new leechers every day it'd be a total of 108 downloads. It is fair to assume that only 9 of these bothered to seed back so I'd say the total is right.

Wondering still where the hell they got their mystical 25,000 total from I just searched for "Aslan Uncased" and was surprised to see 5 links to torrents of the album in the first two pages of results. However 4 of the 5 just link back to the one on TPB with 9 seeders. The 5th is where I think they got their mystical 25,000 total from:

http://www.nowtorrents.com/torrents/aslan-uncased.html

This is the 7th result you get on google for the album title and when you click it you actually get "No Matches were found" but up at the top are FAKE results that are actually just ad links. You could search for anything and you'll get those exact same four ad results.

http://www.nowtorrents.com/torrents/gambra-thumped.html

If you refresh the totals change each time so it's safe to say they found this link by googling the name, added up the total of listed downloads they got (which is totally random) and are using that to moan about their loss of sales. Incredible.

thats gas - you should email that to Aslan and see what they say.

[Froog]

bust that shit wide open gambra!

[pete]

I've just been listening to the first minute or two of this and have done a mere 10 minutes of googling to try verify the claim of 25,000 downloads. The EMI press statement mentioned that they've tracked that amount of downloads "through Torrents Nova and Pirate Bay alone." The first problem with that is that there's no such site as Torrents Nova (I presumed they meant mininova but Aslan gets zero hits over there) but never mind, we'll carry on.

Next I search for ever possible permutation for downloads of the new Aslan album and I kept getting the same result which is "Aslan - Uncase'd (2009) KompletlyWyred Dhz.inc" which was uploaded to thepiratebay. However this file only has a grand total of 9 seeders and 6 leechers and has been alive since the 26th of June. There's no way of telling how many times it's been leeched exactly but even if it was 6 new leechers every day it'd be a total of 108 downloads. It is fair to assume that only 9 of these bothered to seed back so I'd say the total is right.

Wondering still where the hell they got their mystical 25,000 total from I just searched for "Aslan Uncased" and was surprised to see 5 links to torrents of the album in the first two pages of results. However 4 of the 5 just link back to the one on TPB with 9 seeders. The 5th is where I think they got their mystical 25,000 total from:

http://www.nowtorrents.com/torrents/aslan-uncased.html

This is the 7th result you get on google for the album title and when you click it you actually get "No Matches were found" but up at the top are FAKE results that are actually just ad links. You could search for anything and you'll get those exact same four ad results.

http://www.nowtorrents.com/torrents/gambra-thumped.html

If you refresh the totals change each time so it's safe to say they found this link by googling the name, added up the total of listed downloads they got (which is totally random) and are using that to moan about their loss of sales. Incredible.

http://www.hotpress.com/Aslan/news/A..../5688721.html

[sweetoblivion]

someone needs to explain 'teh internetz' to Alsan, methinks.

Oh - and good work Gambra

[Moods For Mallards]

The Aslan fella would attract the sympathy of the average listener in that exchange, he was the most articualte of the non-Pats. Hilarious that they got the figure from "the bass player going on the internet".